Hiroshima: the Crime that keeps on paying

If you compare with today's way of communications and time for governments to react on things ... Yes and only sometimes! B U T ... this happened not today and at a time when the Japanese government was split into factions of doves and hawks which cause problems to decide things in time.

Even in Washington of these days were 3 days very short man ...

 

Then post the words of all the military leaders at the time....actual quotes.....saying we should drop the bomb

 

You first since you have been making the opposite claim and have balked and run away when challenged to support it

 

Here is a partial listing but it is almost all of the greatest military minds in the US at the time. But it does not include every private so you won't agree with it. LOL

http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/lewis/2010/atomicdec.htm

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And by the way toggle has seen this list and does not dispute it. Actually no one does.

 

You said ALL generals sorry that is a miniscule fraction of them.

Try again or run away like a coward as you did last time. Otherwise it is more proof of being a childish liar.

 

You have never provided a list for all of them so start working and stop lying.

No one disputed it because it is not source it providers no original source material ergo it is merely opinion.

 

I am happy to read the quotes you have of generals supporting the use of the bomb. I will hold my breath...ready? GO. LOL

 

I never claimed to have any you said you did of ALL of them and have not even tried to provide them .

Now stop lying and get to work

 

Thank you for sharing your opinion

 

That is fact not opinion which you willfully lie about again.

 

Thank you for sharing your opinion

 

I shared no opinion I stated fact and it is proven fact that you have been caught lying yet again.

You did say ALL of the generals and you failed to support that claim.

I made no such claim at all so run along and learn the difference between opinion and fact little one

 

Have a super day!

 

Find another thread to lie on and run away from

 

Nope. But you are free to leave. If you feel the need to focus on some minor point rather than the scope of this thread that is fine too. The larger point is till the same. And really....have a great day!

 

And you failed to address the larger point by simply dreaming up idiotic lies you cannot back up nowgo do some real work somewhere

 

Thank you for you opinion.

 

Once again I state fact you need to learn the difference

 

Thank you for your opinion

 

I stated none you did I stated facts which prove you lie.

And you continue to lie calling those facts opinion

 

But have a great day

 

Hirohito was intent on pursuing the Soviet mediation but he was badly informed about the outside world due to Japan's diplomatic isolation at the time. While negotiating with Churchill and Roosevelt, Stalin agreed to attack Japan by reneging on the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact at Yalta and there was no possibility that Russia acted on Japan's behalf. In return, the Soviets were allowed to grab a couple of islands from Japan.

 

When Japan decided to offer a conditional surrender, and when they decided to surrender outright, both times they decided to surrender late in the evening. Both times they managed to inform us of their decision the very next morning.

If the split between doves and hawks resulted in no decision to surrender, that meant we needed to keep attacking.

 

No ... and this is the point! After Hiroshima it costs about 1.5 days to get full information about the total destruction and that the complete city was with one bomb terminated. Also you miss totally that before Hiroshima was still this fight of doves and hawks ... later ones want to fight until death pure out of honor and for the Emperor which was more a dove at this time btw!

Ask yourself how much time will need any government (including USA) to make such a serious decision!

 

Just because a general or admiral didn't oppose the use of the bombs, that doesn't mean they supported it. There were a lot of military leaders who didn't have any opinion about it at all.

And then there was Admiral Leahy, who had only this to say about the A-bombs: "This is the biggest fool thing we have ever done. The bomb will never go off, and I speak as an expert in explosives."

If I get time, I'll try to look up the cite from just after Nagasaki, when Admiral Nimitz, General LeMay, General Spaatz, and General Twining were so enthusiastic about the A-bombs that they sent word to Washington DC asking to have the third A-bomb dropped on Tokyo to see if that would manage to get the Emperor's attention.

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The headline on that webpage is highly misleading. Not one single item in the list was a case of someone urging Truman not to drop the A-bombs.

And in fact no one did say anything of the sort to Truman.

Ike was the only one who even opposed using the bombs at the time, and he only told a single person in private. Truman never even heard about it.

It is true though that as far as I can see, the quotes on that page are accurate so long as you keep them in context.