Historians give Trump brutal grades in new survey -- and rank him worse than the president who died

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    everyone has opinions. if you actually talked to a few mechanics you might find a range of opinions. have you heard "flyover country" used outside of conservative circles?
     
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    I have talked to mechanics. And other tradesmen. They have all be conservative because they actually DO stuff for a living. Reviewing to see if I can find some polls.
    EDIT: So far
     

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    I have to wonder if you can see the irony in whining about "snobs" and then assuming that only conservatives DO stuff for a living. But I doubt it.
     
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    I am slamming "historians" as, for the vast vast majority of them, they have no marketable skills and do not use their credentials to DO stuff.
     
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    You don't have to turn a wrench to "actually DO stuff for a living." Is it the kind of endorsement of conservatism you were looking for to point out these tradesmen you know are folks with lower levels of education?
     
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    You mean like teaching and or writing books? Why do you think intellect isn't marketable?
     
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    The ability to write a book is very difficult to turn into something of a marketable skill. I have friends who have published. That isn't how they make a living. Dunno where to find stats on that. Teaching itself, at least soft studies like History are under attack for becoming just another leftist and unproductive scam.
     
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    That's quite a twisted view you have there. It appears to be informed by the right wing talking points of the day..........but not much else.
     
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    And in the process slammed every one that "does stuff" that is not a conservative.
     
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    And I would not be surprised if you have been vaccinated for Covid and still wear a mask... or two.... when you're alone driving in your car.
     
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    Like music, the good ones sell the most. Meritocracy at work.
     
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    Not necessarily so. I think you can do stuff, like be a pediatrician, and be liberal. See the chart I posted above. But I do think there is a break down by sex as well and that pediatricians are over overwhelmingly female. Need to check on that.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-...findings, women,Pediatrics (about 75 percent)


    Pediatrics (about 75 percent)
     
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    That is sort of funny. If “good” music sold the most we would have never heard of Britney Spears
     
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    And then you double down on your snobbish attacks
     
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    Yes, I've been vaccinated. I no longer wear a mask. The son of a friend of mine has not been vaccinated, won't allow his son to be vaccinated, and doesn't wear a mask. He's an auto mechanic.
     
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    do you wear a seatbelt?
     
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    With all due respect the koch's are libertarian not conservative and they hated Trump as much as lefties did.
     
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    And a ****ing idiot, who very well may kill us all (unvaccinated anti-maskers get infected and spread the infection, the pool of viruses gets ever larger and then we get the mutation that goes beyond the vaccine and is much more virulent to everyone. WE ALL DIE AND IT WAS CONSERVATIVE *******S THAT KILLED US)

    For god's sake. We were lucky this time, this COULD have been Ebola. Do you think people would have been refusing to wear a mask or get vaccinated if people were bleeding to death through their ****ing SKIN?
     
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    errr... or... observing reality.
     
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    Needless to say the "****ing idiot" to which you refer is a Trumpette.
     
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    Dude, you're going to stroke out. Grab a paper bag or something.
     
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    No, you are observing your own bigotry.

    Most trade unions and their members are heavily Democrat and yet they are the ones doing "stuff". And that of course totally ignores your weird view of what "doing stuff" even means.
     
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    Are they? Trump made huge inroads with them. And there are conservative Democrats. I thought we were talking Leftist vs. Conservative. If not, my bad.
     
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    In Greek mythology, Polydectes was not a nice guy. When I hear certain posters go off, condemning education while claiming others are lacking in intelligence, it makes me think that they struggled in school.
     
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    Historians give Trump brutal grades in new survey -- and rank him worse than the president who died.

    How bad could a president be who was only in office for a month before dying? That wasn't enough time to hurt anything in those days. Nobody should even rank WH Harrison. How about Andrew Johnson as the worst president in history. Picking on Harrison isn't fair. I wasn't aware that "historians" are so liberal. Apparently they are.
     

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