History of Islamic Jihad

Dude, you're SO wasting your time here. Think about it. Christianity has never done evil, Islam and all Muslims always have. Our drones, planes, rockets and bullets in Iraq were all operated by uh, Muslims!
You might as well be trying to explain the contributions of blacks to America and it's greatness, to the Grand Dragon of the KKK. This guy will have an open mind or even a modicum or reason, right after he bites the tip of his own elbow...

 

He is an Islamist and an Islamapologist totally in denial of all truth about Islam and Islamization. His consistent rejections of Jihad Watch and Religion of Peace define him clearly. If he even knew about Act for America, Islam Watch, Barenakedislam, and other protectionist organizations and their websites, he would label them as biased also.

He's a perfect example of the old saying : "Invalidation is hardwired into Islamapologists"

 

So you're an Islamapologist too ? Oh brother !

 

Your balance scale is highly UNbalanced. No cult, religion, ideology, or nation even comes close to the horrific 1400 year record of Islam's 270 million murders arounf the globe. (120 million Africans. 60 Million Christians. 80 Million Hindus. 10 million Buddhists)

 

lol I know.... It's all those darn Moslem folks fault!!

I just haven't seen this much ignorance before, it's still new to me. Most people I talk to about Islam atleast know what they are talking about. This is like talking to people who don't even know what "Salam" means...

 

Look. we've had our country attacked on our own soil. Other than Pearl Harbor, that's never happened before. It scared the sh1t out of a LOT of people. And it made them very, very hateful. The natural psychological reaction is to find someone or something to blame.
I have to admit that if I hadn't had a lot of Muslim friends before the attack, I might have reacted the same way. They attacked us in the name of Allah. WTF. Can I blame them for their ignorance? No. I can't.
The only reason I have different views is because of my experience traveling the world, living among Muslims and even having Muslims friends here in America. So I know that judging all Muslims based on the acts of terrorists, would be equivalent to judging all Christians based on the acts of the KKK.
So because I don't hate ALL Muslims, I'm sure they will label me. It's what they do. They can't help it. Their hatred and fear is rooted in pain. So they come up with labels like Apologists and Muslim-lovers - like the phrase n1gger-lovers was once used in the American South.
Though they may judge you without knowing you, think of the words of Christ, whom your religion holds to be holy. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Love thine enemy. He who you would hold to be the least among you, shall be the greatest. Finally: Do not focus on what you find to be the flaw in another's faith but instead, focus on your own path. Is it one of love and forgiveness?
They are reacting. Remember that and it will deflect the arrows of hatred they shoot at your shield of faith. Allah kum Saalam.

 

If you knew what you were talking about, you could have gotten at least a 75% on the Islamization quiz. You got a ZERO,because you're a young kid who's been nowhere, who's done nothing, and who knows nothing, and you go around pretending that you're some kind of know-it-all. You are a know-nothing.

Who is Lina Morales ? Who is Hesham Islam ? Who is Peter DiGangi ? What is ISNA ? Who is Gordon Kromberg ?Who are Charety Zhe, Stefanie Creswell, and Asra Nomani ? What sura of the Koran gives Muslim husbands the OK to beat their wives ? (not that it is ever OK, under US laws). What do Jamal Badawi and Muzzamil Siddiqi say about it ? Who are they in Muslim politics ? Where is the US base of operations for the Muslim Brotherhood ? Where ? Who ? What ? Do you know who ? You know what ? You know anything ?

I purposely gave you some questions you could Google for the answers. Hopefully, you'll learn something about Islamization (AKA Stealth Jihad) because right now, you're deep in the dark, and totally ignorant of how ignorant you are. The quiz should have given you a hint. Sheeeeeesh !

 

Care to make such statements about me?
Tell me who Fuboun Notles is?
Tell me who said this?: "The inclination to make enemies of those who are different, before having significant and direct interaction with them, is the most observable sign of a character definied by fear and prejudice."
(Sorry, no easy google for you. I mean, as long as we're throwing out the self-righteous bs about testing others...)

So how many Muslims have you lived with? How many Muslims villages or cities have you lived in? How many Muslims marriages have you been to? How many of your friends have been Muslim?

Oh wait, let me guess. Your "expertise" comes from www.whackjobsLoveThis.com and other "credible internet sites"? Ah. Okay.You found it on the iternet! How could I doubt such bona fides!

So fine. You're angry about what happened. And you're afraid - which would be fairly evident by your moniker (familiar with Freud's rule of overcompensation? Hope you don't own a Big Truck too ). And these marvelous sites feed that fear of yours. Here's an idea. Go to a mosque. Meet some people. Talk to them. Then, if they don't blow you up or behead you, do it again. See if they're as scary as whackjob.com makes them out to be. Nah, never mind. That would take the desire to want accurate information and it's pretty obvious that's the last thing you want.

Well if nothing else, this thread gave me the opportunity to make a new friend. So thank you for that.

 

Let's see how well that claim works in a court of law.

9 is 9, does not matter if he/she hits puberty or not.

 

Some of us do know what it means. And it also sounds a lot like "shalom", another word I know.

Contrary to what you may think, not everybody here is some kind of ignorant bigot. Some of us happen to accept all 3 Abrahamic religions as equal.

However, we find it very upsetting and disgusting when roughly 1/3 of those Abrahamic religions do not see us as being equal, and a percentage wants to kill us because of that.

And then we find it even more distressing when the majority of those do not speak up loudly in protest of this. I know that whenever somebody in here screams that Muslims or Jews have no right to live, I always stand up against them and tell them to ****.

Maybe if more Muslims stood up and proclaimed that Christians and Jews had those same rights more of us would stand up in their behalf.

Allah Maak

 

I never said everybody on this forum was ignorant bigots. Or was I referring to you when I said doesn't even know what Salam means.

It was to certain people in this thread. If you read the 4 pages of this discussion with mainly 2 of the ignorant people I'm referring to, you'll see what I mean .

Islam doesn't see anything wrong with Christianity or Judaism. Both are Abrahimic religions, both worship the same God, both have books given to Jesus PBUH and Moses PBUH from God. Because some crazy people who blow themselves up in public (including Mosques - in the name of Islam no less) approve killing Jews, Christians, (and Muslim women and men who don't follow their rules btw) doesn't mean this is what Islam represents.

Muslims do stand up against terrorists giving our religion a bad name. However, you need to look for it yourself rather than rely on the media to show this (nice world we live in, hey?). There are numerous protests around the Middle East that don't get a second of time in the news. Why? Because the news is more focused on showing the crazy people to firther damage the image of Islam rather than show anything positive about the religion (say what you want, it's hard to argue this...)

A court of law in the 21st century or the 7th century? And yes, the time does play a factor.

 

Islam is a radical religion.It's impossible to argue about that because concrete findings show most of the worldwide violence is commited by muslem people who are often very extremist and affected by moron lectures to go kill as many souls as possible for no special reason,only on the behalf of islam.
In contrast to another religions that increase the importance of everyone to the humanity,this religion encourages to behave differently,calls its members to run riot in the place where they live..
I would not like to be racist and have to confess there are very nice muslem people around but there is nothing to stop from blaming a majority of the wickness on this religion.in fact the most horrible event in the whole history has been commited by a group of insane muslem people who have been qualified to fly an airplane.Ruthlessly,they have abducted the airplane and left the control room with no a special idea how to act.
they wanted to inflict on america as much damage as possible and did it eventually by intentionally running into the twins tower which are well known for its large size and the uncountable people inside.

many people have been killed in this blast. i still can't get it over.

 

Oh yes, nothing wrong with Chrisatianity. That is why you can't travel to most of the Middle East with a copy of the Christian Bible. Or be seen on the street wearing a cross or crucifix.

And that is nonsense trying to claim that the media is suppressing condemnation of terrorism. I have seen interviews with clerics and group leaders where the interviewer would ask them up front "Do you condemn Hammas. Do you condemn terrorism?"

And in 8 out of 10 interviews, the person either refuses to answer, or tries to avoid answering it in any way. In maybe 1 out of 10 the person will condemn those actions. And in another 1 out of 10, they will admit they support it.

You may try and make all the claims about the media you want. That is pure coprolite however. It makes me wonder how much of the "real media" you have actually seen yourself, and how much you have been told about.

 

That's not true. It's a minority of "Muslims" who kill anybody in their country, however you only hear about the deaths of Christians and Jews. How many suicide bombers -claiming to be Muslims fighting for Allah - blow themselves up in Mosques? That should be clear enough these people aren't true Muslims.

I understand 9/11 was a horrible event. But that doesn't give a good excuse to hate Islam, atleast in my opinion.

If all people based our hatred on events by people in a certain religion, it'd be a disaster. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism would all be in wars with eachother to this day because of the acts each committed in the past. Humanity wouldn't have gotten to where we are today.

You need to understand wht went down in 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam (I don't care what Al Qaida claims, they aren't a Jihadist group and they've proven it time and time again). We don't even know the full truth about 9/11 yet.

Also, and I don't mean no disrespect, but in all of history there has been worse events....

Salam.

 

Have you tried?

Hamas isn't a terrorist organization. Ask a Muslim how they feel about Al Qaida, the Taliban or groups related to them.

The case of Hamas (and Hezbollah) is not a simple matter and only a few countries recognize them as "terrorists".

Asking a true Muslim their feeling towards Hamas and Al Qaida will get you two different answers. Hamas is resistance. Al Qaida is cancer.

Well, it seems obvious you are another victim of the US Media.... And it's sad.

For a recent example, earlier this month there was an anti-terror Islamic rally in Kazahkstan. Bet you didn't hear that on your news.

Salam.

 

I'll make such statements about you, just like every other big mouth Islamapologist who couldn't get more than a 5% on my Islamization quiz, after (IF) you show that you're just like them. So go ahead and take the quiz, and let's see what you've got. Just don't put any fake answers in. I know who all the people and thing in the quiz are. Identify the names and things or sit back and contemplate how much you don't know about just the recent History of Islamic Jihad.

Names associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

Ibin Taamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall , Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik , Imam Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran, Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil , Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves, Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma , Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Frank Gaffney, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Bashar al-Assad, Adolpho Aguilar Zinser, Joseph Farah, Nabil al-Marabh, Raed Hijazi, David Harris, Syed Mumtaz Ali, Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, Dr. Paul Williams , Hassan al Turabi, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Kevin James, Warner MacKenzie, Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Abdullah Yusef Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Nessim Joseph Dawood, Mohammed Habib Shakir, Arthur John Arberry, Aqsa Parvez, Atefeh Rajabi, Francis Bok, Michael Coren, Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, Paul Marshall, Koenraad Elst, Tom Clancy, Phil Alden Robinson, Michael Graham, Thomas Klocek, Stephen Coughlin, Hasham Islam, Steven Emerson, Mordechai Nisan, Abduraman Alamoudi, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Musa Abu Marzook, Keith Ellison, Abdullah al-Arian, ,Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani, James Woolsey, Walid Phares, Guy Rodgers, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Paul Sperry, P.David Gaubatz, Chris Gaubatz, Stefanie Creswell, Charety Zhe, Adnan el-Shukrijumah, Jaffar the Pilot, Mohammad Weiss Rasool, Brian P. Fairchild, Peter M. Leitner, Sergeant Naveed I. Butt, Bill Bratton, Jamal Barzinji, Ingrid Mattson, Safaa Zarzour, Khalid Iqbal, James "Yousef" Yee, Ahmed Alwani, Taja Alwani, Warith Deen Umar, Tom Harrington, John Guandolo, Patrick Sookhdeo, Gaddoor Saidi, Muhammad Usmani, Mahdi Bray, Ali al-Timimi, Maulana Abdul Ala Maududi, Sayyid Quth, Zaid Shakir,

Things associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, , treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" ), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya, Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004, US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, Islamic American University, DawaNet-to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council, "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute, US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch, "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute, Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center, Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles", the triple border region, UN Security Council, House Homeland Security Committee subcommittee on investigations report : "A Line In the Sand: Confronting the Threat At the Southwest Border", OTMs, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Muslims of the Americas, the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, "TD Monthly", halal chicken, ACLU, the Date Frappuccino, Open Society Foundation, Whiting Foundation, hijab, Transportation & Safety Admin. (TSA), "New Media Journal" report - "In the Belly of the Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Jamaat ul-Fuqra mosque (Brooklyn, NY), Koran: 4:34, honor killings, the Alec file, Jamiyyat Ul-Islam, It's the Ideology Stupid,Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, UN Children's Fund, the Population Council - 2003 survey, m'uta, Haratines, Janjaweed, Dinka tribe, "Escape From Slavery", Toronto Sun online - "Slavery Lives in the Sudan", Middle East Forum - "The Problem with Slavery", Saudi Arabia Senior Council of Clerics, Human Rights Watch, Middle East Forum, Copts, Baha'i sect of Islam, "Islam : From Toleration to Terror", Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jyllands-Posten, "The Sum of All Fears", University of South Florida, Palistinian Islamic Jihad, "Future Jihad", Mosque Census Project, Eid al-Adha, Shahada, Mahram, FBI's Arab/Muslim Sikh American Advisory Committee, Higgins Center for Counterterrorism Research, Jamaat e-Islami, Samah, Tarbiya,

PS - this quiz is just the tip of the iceberg. I could give you 10 more quizzes like it, and I'm just a novice on the subject. Imagine if you were talking to Brigitte Gabriel or Robert Spencer.

PPS - a word of advice. You can cut out the "credible internet sites" talk. We all know Invalidation is hardwired into Islamapologists.

 

He's an Islamist. You're going to get taqiyya from him and nothing much more.

 

A while back, I asked 6 different media outlets if they would cover stories of Muslims speaking out against jihad and the many bad aspects of Islam. Every one said they would be all over it. In fact, I've seen Dr, Zuddhi Jasser of the Muslim reformist organization, American Islamic Forum for Democracy on Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC a number of times. I've also seen some reps from Islam Watch. So where's all the others ?

 

Often the interview will go something like this Fox News reporter asking Corey Saylor of CAIR if CAIR denounces Hamas.

Interviewer : "Does CAIR denounce Hamas terrorism ?"

Saylor : "We denounce all terrorism."

LOL. Getting the picture ?

The the interviewers asks "What about Hamas ? Do you denounce them ?"

Saylor : "We denounce all terrorism."

Notice at no point does Saylor ever say if he defines Hamas to be terrorist or not. In actually, CAIR is the right arm of Hamas in the USA. They will never say they denounce Hamas or any Islamic jihad organization. It is typical Muslim taqiyya. Similar to how they say the Koran forbids killing innocent civilians, and they are against that. Notice that they don't mention that they don't consider any Israelis "innocent". Understanding Muslim taqiyya takes a little effort getting know it.

 

The State Department decided to add Hamas to its U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations in April 1993. Hamas is still listed that way today. They are also listed as a terrorist organization by the 27 countries of the European Union, Israel, UK, Japan, and Canada. Russia has called upon Hamas to reject violence and recognize Israel. The Swiss Federal Council has condemned the “terrorist attacks” committed by Hamas against Israel. Jordan has banned Hamas, and its military wing is listed as a terrorist organization by Australia.

 

No, because I was informed that it was against the law to do so when I first went to the Middle East. And I do not make it a habit of violating the law. We were also instructed to never take a Bible with us when we went out in town. And yes, I know of 3 people who had Bibles confiscated while over there.

And you think I am supposed to take you seriously after a claim like that? I am sorry, but you just lost almost all credability with that claim.

Just reading the Hamas Covenant is an amazing thing. I suggest you try it sometime. Please, read through it. Then tell me that it is not a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of not only Israel, but all Jews.

And making the claim that most Muslims would favor Hamas is not helping your side of the debate at all. That is only making them to appear even more radical.

But please, correct me if I am wrong. And show me that the quotes from the Hamas Covenant included below mean something other then what they sound like.

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia law and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of Islamic conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the Palestinian question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Moslem problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?

But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah.

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with.

That is why you find them giving these attempts constant attention through information campaigns, films, and the school curriculum, using for that purpose their lackeys who are infiltrated through Zionist organizations under various names and shapes, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, espionage groups and others, which are all nothing more than cells of subversion and saboteurs.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

And I have barely skimmed the surface of the Hamas Covenant. But please, if I am reading it wrong, feel free to correct me. Because this sure reads like a Manifesto to justify violence and attacks on others (and not just against Jews, but against Christians and anybody who does not follow their form of Islam).

Well, let's see who some of those "few" countries are, shall we?

Australia
Canada
Israel
Germany
Japan
Jordan
United Kingdom
United States
European Union

Yea, just a few. Including the Organization that represents almost all European nations. That in and of itself is a huge political block. Which in and of itself shows that "few" is not accurate.

And they are not all "foreign", as Jordan shows.

Which is what most of us find so troubling. Hamas uses human shields, encourages attacks upon civilians, launches rocket attacks against schools and civilian communities, and kidnapping and holding of hostages.

And you think that this is legitimate "resistance"?

Uh-huh. Is the Hamas Covenant a US Media fabrication? Are the rocket attacks US fabrications? You go on and on about that, but offer no evidence.

But I do know quite a bit. And I am actually a regular reader of many news sources, including FARS News Agency.

 

I'm sure, of all people, have done that. Lol.

Jasser? Of course Jasser appears on FOX news and the others. They love him on there. But the guy represents Islam about as much as the Muslim Brotherhood does. Oops, sorry, this might confuse you. This is sarcasm.

He's a right-wing puppet that says what they all think. A tool. Majority of American Muslims don't even know who this guy is or what he does.

There is a difference between speaking out against Jihad and Islam and terrorism, by the way. But it's too much for you to understand I guess.

One more thing. This is about you're little quiz you speak so highly of.

Can I see some sort of certificate from an Imam showing it is a valid quiz on Islam and not just some random thing some person made up to try and insult Islam.

Since you are obsessed with the Muslim Brotherhood so much, I am willing to compromise. If you can get a certificate or some kind of validation from them I'll accept it and take you quiz

Salam.

 

Two things.

First of all, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict a whole different discussion. If you want to discuss this, please make another thread because I love talking about it. But talking about it with you.... Meh I can just picture it now... Okay, I'm getting off topic.

I thought CAIR was an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in their secret agenda to take over the world? Now it's an arm of Hamas, trying to accomplish what exactly?

This is not Taqiyah. Saylor is trying to avoid answering the question on Hamas....

Salam.

 

lol more ignorance... Hamas has changed a lot since 1993. But...

Just because the US State Dept labels them a terrorist org means absolutely nothing to me. Sorry.

 

Islam in America is represented by Anwar al Awlaki.