Homophobic slurs when not directed at LGBT individuals

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  1. Ritter

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    Exactly. It is pure pervertedness for an adult to talk about sex with other people's children and from my experience with sex-ed, I know teachers themselves feel this too as they were always very awkward and uncomfortable when lecturing about it.

    I know there are now some Liberal kindergartens (tax funded ones!) here in Sweden that include sex-ed in their programme(!!!)
     
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    Imagine if only schools invested resources on "special-needs-kids" instead of wasting them on something as obscure and useless as sex-ed.
     
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    We should always look to the deeper psychology of these ideas, Rittz. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind (and it took me years to drill down through the history, combing through initiators' motivations etc) now that this is an aspect of paedophilia. One of the most sinister aspects to this brand of the perversion, is the inculturation of the idea that it's in the child's interests. This was cleverly worked into the fabric of it early on, by very clever and very very dangerous people.

    But what clinched it for me, was when I began to study alternative approaches to this stuff. And I mean alternative as in, alternative to the western model. When you ask enough people, and keep getting the same response, "why would you ever want or need to talk to children about sex?", delivered to you in a manner which expresses the true horror of what we're doing, you can't keep pretending.
     
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    actually it is the forum right wingers who accuse patriots of homophobia for their portrayals of America's enemies Trump & Putin together
     
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    Oh yes, I very much believe it has to do with some form of paedophilia too. The hypersexualisation of society has been running wild since the Sexual Revolution© and this obsessive fetishism later spilled over on children. It is very common that we today see perverted historians projecting their own and modern day hypersexualisation to their interpretations of Greek philosphers' relations to their students and even to the literary classics as they categorise any male companionship as "homosexuality" and a 5 year old boy kissing a 5 year old girl as "sexual behaviour". In a sense, some - seemingly - sane parents ascribe to this narrative too as they are overly prudish on the matter of "child nudity".

    A healthy parent-child-relationship will prepare the next generation with all they need to know about love and sex. Both through the child observing their parents and through reasonable answers to any questions the child in question may have about the topic.
     
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    She does have a point. Live and let live is the best policy.

    If a bakery doesn't want to make a cake for your wedding, go find one that does. There are likely plenty, I'm willing to bet there are bakeries that offer niche services to same sex weddings.

    This need to destroy all opposition is going to come back and bite us.

    Some people are just not going to like you or things about you. It's okay, there really is room for everybody.
     
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    The problem we run into with gay youth whether they grow out of it or not is, the sex they are going to have is a lot more risky than heterosexuals. There is a spooky predatory nature that does take advantage of youth.

    I think if anything needs to be taught to gay youth about sex it should be restraint. Shame restrained me, but many people these days don't grow up in families with these built in taboos. And the shame part did have negative effects and consequences.

    Also, I think the idea of labeling yourself homosexual too young can have some effects. People sometimes feel they need to live up to their label

    So education should be particularly for boys if you have these feelings exercise restraint, and don't be so quick to label yourself.
     
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    Not only homosexuals should exercise restraint. Abstinence is virtuous and there is a reason cultures tend to have strict marital and sexual norms. Sex is just as risky for heterosexuals, primarily because of this thing called pregnancy and secondly, for health reasons. Thirdly, the more sexual partners people have before "settling down", the higher is the risk of them getting divorced.

    Today, most young people would not even know what postponing gratification means if you shoved it down their throat and if you tried telling them less is merrier in terms of sexual partners, most would laugh at you. Modernity is highly hedonistic and rather nihilistic - People are self-cebtred and they tend not to care about anything.

    School should not focus on anything but education. Norms, values and culture should come from family and society.
     
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    Homophobic is a slander and an attack against normal people. It's more of the left's word games and language confusion. Homophobic is a false argument. Phobia implies fear. So in their attack they are saying you are afraid of homosexuality when most times in reality many people find it morally repugnant or just plain evil. The word is used to demonize the good people that follow Christ that oppose that evil lifestyle that often ends in shame,embarrassment and a gruelingly long and slow death.

    Gay was twisted long ago too. It's original meaning was "Happy". How is homosexuality happy when it is morally repugnant causes much pain and is a major health crisis that leads often to disease and death? Thus they use "Gay" as a trick more to try to make something that is very miserable seem more palatable to the public when in reality it is distasteful. Tricking people is what the left is all about.

    The homosexual is Satan's foot-solider and their effort is to kill God.
     
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    Yes, it is true that "homophobia" is only a term used to silence people of a "deviant opinion" in hopes of causing shame and conformism. Of course, people who genuinely hate homosexuals and other groups do exist. However, these are so marginalised one rarely encounters them and, thus, in most cases the slur of "homophobia" is thrown at innocent people.

    Of course, all of these labels of [enter group of choice]-phobias stem from collectivistic thought which - paradoxically - means that identity politics itself is guilty of all the [enter group of choice]-phobias as they reject the individual agency by chaining him to the stereotypes of the collectives he belongs to.
     
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    Well yes the culture of instant gratification being what it is tends to make this true and a lot of cases but I'm not talking about those cases I'm talking about the ones where people would be restrained.

    I think it's also important to keep things in perspective homosexuality should not be an identity we shouldn't build communities based on it we don't need to anymore. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation that's it.

    People who Define themselves by what sex they have and with who I find it irritating regardless of whether they are male female how much sexual or heterosexual. It's okay to talk about it but just be a person with more depth.
     
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    I find the term homophobia mostly applied to people who do not actively endorse homosexual orientations. It's often not from people who hate homosexuals I have yet to encounter more than one person that actually hates homosexuals.
     
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    There is zero point discussing this further, you believe you can determine the sexuality of 1200 people by psychic powers. Polls disagree with you. Behavioral science disagrees with you. Educational groups disagree with your. Medical evidence disagrees it’s you.

    Because you “feel like it” is not a valid line of reasoning.
     
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    The LGBT people claim to want "equal" rights but what they really want is "special" rights.
     
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    I have many times ask her to show the slightest shred of evidence for anything she claims she never ever does.

    So making claims without evidence means they can be dismissed without evidence.
     
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    Honestly I think the activist want a pound of Flesh.
     
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    Polls indicate this as an average nationwide.

    You should sell your psychic abilities to the polling companies, I’m sure they would pay handsomely.
     
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    What special rights are LGB seeking? Go into detail
     
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    It's not enough to change laws to legalize gay marriage. They want society to agree with and celebrate their lifestyle and then you are labeled a bigot if you don't do this.
     
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    At the heart of the issue I really think generally speaking activists oral solution searching for a problem that doesn't exist. We've Advanced to the point where homosexual people are not really seen and the grandest sense of things as lower people. They can participate in society just like anyone else except for in a few dark corners. I don't know why these dark corners are the hill people choose to die on I could care less personally if someone agrees with my lifestyle or not I'm not forcing it on them I'm not going to shame them for thinking what I do sinful God I just simply have a different opinion and that's what it is. It seems the ability to agree to disagree has become scarce
     
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    Bloody well said, Polz. Hats off to you, my man.
     
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    Hunnerd percent
     
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    You misunderstood, completely. I said that in SOME PLACES there are very few homosexual people. "stats" are not even distributed.
     
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    You are really working hard to avoid what must be an unpleasant truth, my friend. Stats don't work like that .. there is no universally even distribution. SOME places will have more (of whatever), and some will have less. We are not all equally liable to be homosexual, at birth. There are a variety of influencing factors - many of them cultural. Since culture changes from place to place, so too does influence.
     
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    Basically, when the sexual revolution reached it's zenith, and had broken down many of the old taboos, those driving the thing reached an impasse. They'd 'converted' all the adults, but one group remained taboo. That probably needled the hell out of them for many many years ... but eventually they found a way to access the last bastion of innocence. They came up with a raft of 'research' which just happened to find that kids needed to be sexualised. That so many parents bought into this, without ONCE considering that the rest of the world's children were getting along just fine without being sexualised - and not just getting along fine, but actually doing better when it comes to sex related problems in teen years. Really incredibly stupid move, but understandable, since the designers of this despicable work played directly to parental ego. Sent the clear message that it was Modern, and Sophisticated, and Caring to tell your little kiddies they need to start thinking about sex as soon as possible, because it was inevitable that they'd be having lots of it, early.
     
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