Homosexual marriage

Rules based approach to God. Still to lazy to read I see.

God does not have to state each and everything that is wrong, he has to say what is right and he has. Its up to your creative imagination to find things outside that rule set .... and then demand God condemn like a total moron.

I mean if that is how you want to waste your life trying to find exceptions like a slick lawyer - well, I've already said it, you missed the boat a few miles back.

Nice to see the confirmation that atheists are driven by condemnation of ... anything, rather than by praise, affirmation, and right action.

Teddy Roosevelt had you guys pegged as critics long ago. If only he could have lived to see it turned into a religion!

 

Now, in the world of atheism, so keen to condem religious people for being against or at least concerned about homosexual marriage .... how is it possible to have an atheist against homosexual marriage? To have an atheist raising the same moral concerns about the practice?

Hmmm ....

 

I enjoyed the rant, however I enjoyed your avoidance of the issue more.

The only verses that I know of which speak against homosexuality are in the Old Testament, but Jesus wiped all that away.

So where is the issue? Anything in the New Testament? Or would allowing the blood to run over them be acceptable?

 

I've only answered it twice now.

Jesus did not wipe away all the OT slick, which you would know if you read either one. Much of his ministry is based on the OT, but even Jews WITHOUT THE OT, reject deuteronomy as a rules based approach to God.

However, the sermon of the adulterous woman, further clarifies the difference between rules and punishments which you remain blissfully ignorant of.

So, your just, as usual, being an ignorant prick. It's not our fault, once again taht you hate everyone different than you. Its a bad thing though, so you may want to take a look at it.

Oh, and just th through it back at you via the Revolution, I am sure you would be willing to kill people to correct ... what you are not even right about. Don't try and sell us that your self-righteous prattle is about anything other than your own anger. It isn't.

Being young and angry is nothing new - someday you will understand - and be very ashamed.

 

Funny how Christians cannot agreed on the supposed word of god. Some say the OT is irrelevant, others disagree. You would think the ultimate law of the land would be a bit more clear. Perhaps being written decades after the events occurred and edited by Willy Wonka and his Oopas has something to do with it.

So which part of this is acceptable or unacceptable?

"If a man lie with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

I guess I am unable to imagine a positive loving way of reading this.

 

If the bible is the word of this omnipotent, omniscient god, then I would have to assume that the bible is 100% accurate.

Since its not, then 1 of 2 things can only be deducted:

1 – God is liar
2 – God doesn't exist.

I vote for the second.

Actually, there is a 3 possibility. Christians just get on the same page because each has their own wild imagination of what this 'god' is. Wait never mind, that would still fall under #2

 

Its just amusing. The very premise of the Bible is self-defeating.

The Bible is the undeniable word of god. Of course, men assembled the Bible, and left many books out. Unknown editors edited the Bible. Where is the accountability?

The Bible is the undeniable word of god. Yet, there is disagreement over what exactly it means. Why would a deity make it so difficult to understand? Why leave an question that it just might be a sin in a strange and far fetched way to put homosexuals to death? Why not use a timeless language? Why taylor it to a time when people thought the earth was flat and in the center of the universe? Oh wait, man wrote it. Thats why.

The Bible is the undeniable word of god. Yet, its statements contradict observations. How can birds exist before fish? Women being created from the ribs of man? The world existing before light?

Its just ridiculous, however there is so much fear associated with questioning the unquestionable the typical theist will go on thinking everything is true and accurate.

 

The Bible is true and accurate - not because God came down and wrote it, but because men assembled the works of Jesus, those though most accurate and insightful, and, using the same techniques of modern history, complied them into a canon that has withstood thousands of years of skepticism.

Of course, despite the fact that the Biblical creation process is well documented and understood by Christian - you arrogantly assume that we are ignorant of it (when clearly it is you that are ignorant of it - like a lot of things), and then compund it by assuming ALL Christians are fundamentalists when reality and common sense clearlu indicate differently.

You argue against a fringe with ignorance incaranate - but, as they say, ignorance is bless - so enjoy your blissfully ignorant atheism.

 

sorry but your claims are the strawman... You have no defense nor method of addressing the question so you rant.

there is that strawman again..

It dont matter what the divorce rate is.

your method of addressing questions are queer to a normal debate



translation: I've been presented with reality, but it destroys my argument, so I'll pretend it doesn't exist.


that is the best mirror shot you have ever posted

 

so you are representing atheism now?

i didnt know you could be both

homosexual marriage is not really a debate about religion as i can witness that many of religion dont sustain the moral fiber to hold an honest debate

who is for or against an oxymoron of terms? They contradict each other at the opening

honesty is not just an atheists' advantage. Anyone can be honest and be a theist or atheist, just observe how they 'witness' truth.

Morality is within all mankind. But it is easy to see WHY a theist is a weeeee less moral than an atheist as the theist often hasnt evolved into the atheist, just yet.

 

I enjoyed the rant, however you are refusing to participate in an honest debate. That posts wasn't addressed to you, however, this one was:

Funny how Christians cannot agreed on the supposed word of god. Some say the OT is irrelevant, others disagree. You would think the ultimate law of the land would be a bit more clear. Perhaps being written decades after the events occurred and edited by Willy Wonka and his Oopas has something to do with it.

So which part of this is acceptable or unacceptable?

"If a man lie with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

I guess I am unable to imagine a positive loving way of reading this.

 

There is no posituve or loving way to view an ignorant, immature savage running around lying about your faith and constant quoting single verses for the OT while totally avoiding a statement about war in that context or any other.

Really, its nothing more than trolling, as its clear you want nothing more than to insult people.

Even the amateurish attempt to use someone else's faith (a faith you clearly do not understand - what does the Bible say about people who lie and insult?) as a weapon against them, this clearly indicates that the real problem is within you - uncontrollable rage that needs an outlet.

Find a better outlet for your anger issues.

 

So you truly think that the Bible is completely accurate? Genesis to Revelation? No mistakes, everything is literal?

 

The above is what gets me.

Back when it was written, I could see how someone could believe the bible. We knew of the Earth, a sun, a moon, and strange little white dots in the sky. OK, 'god' created this for us. I'll buy that. Thats not a great leap of faith.

But today, we can somewhat grasp just how huge this universe is.

It really is mind-boggling that this omnipotent omniscient 'god' can create billions of galaxies, each that contains billions of stars. But yet, he cannot get man to write down his word in a clear, concise manor that would stand the test of time? Puuuuuuuuuuuleeeeeeeeese!

 

You are deliberately daft?

Deliberately ignorant?

I am pretty sure I have written extensively on the Biblical Creation process, encapsulted in Synoptic gospels.

Its not my fault you need to to argue against a fringe. Not my fault you ignore everything and shift context deliberately into something you can insult. Its you character in such instances that needs examining - not everyone else's!

A better question for context shifting morons of atheism would be, which part of the message of Jesus Christ is wrong?

Its never about solving with you atheists is it? Its always about finding problems and introducing them where there are none. Only an atheists could see a beautiful, partly cloudy day and walk away mumbling about how cloudy it is!

 

Why would he entrust his so all-fired important message to the viscissitudes of the printing press anyway?

Moses was able to destroy the 10 Commandments by throwing the rocks they were carved on to the ground. If I were God I might have chosen a less fragile medium.

 

Do you assume I stalk you and read every single post that you've ever read?

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. We are talking about the accuracy of the Bible, not of whether Jesus was right or not.

 

While I found your rant amusing, you yet again avoided a blunt and direct question.

So which part of this is acceptable or unacceptable?

"If a man lie with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

I guess I am unable to imagine a positive loving way of reading this.

There are two ways out, to either dismiss the word of your god, or to defend it. The first will condemn you to the lake of fire, the latter would simply be disgusting.

 

Since the New Testament doesn't contain any actual writings from Jesus and there isn't any collaborative contemporary evidence of his existence it would be impossible to know what message is being referred to.

 

Exactly. It is so obviously false it baffles me that people give it so much weight.

 

You shall receive neither dude.

The poster doesn't have the testicular fortitude to answer your question (or any question really) straight up.

If he follows protocol, get ready for a strawman argument from him, only for him to tear down his own strawman.

 

Good point, never thought of that one!

If this 'god' can build mountains, cant this 'god' inscribe his 10 commandments on the mountain while he is at it?

 

His rants amuse me though, he says the atheists have anger problems and spends his time attacking other posters instead of addressing the points presented.

Its irony at its finest.

 

"If a man lie with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination."

Considering that the definition of 'abomination' is anything greatly disliked or abhorred, an intense loathing...a detestation....I would say most heterosexuals would agree with this as they would intensely dislike and abhor lying with a person of the same sex. Since most folks are heterosexual, I believe this quote is fairly accurate.


"They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)"

I would think the AIDS epidemic would make it clear that homosexuality has been a death sentence to many homosexuals. Blood is a potent transmitter of the disease.