How a Conservative Activist Invented the Conflict Over Critical Race Theory

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    Well done. To what do you attribute the cavernous disparities between American blacks and whites regarding family wealth, unemployment, health, incarceration, education, family stability?
     
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    You need to read more.
    John McWhorter: The Neoracists - by John McWhorter ...
    https://www.persuasion.community › john-mcwhorter-t...


    Feb 8, 2021 — Black students must be admitted to schools via adjusted grade and test score standards to ensure a representative number of them and foster ...
     
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    You need to read more.
    John McWhorter: The Neoracists - by John McWhorter ...
    https://www.persuasion.community › john-mcwhorter-t...


    Feb 8, 2021 — Black students must be admitted to schools via adjusted grade and test score standards to ensure a representative number of them and foster ...
     
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    How do you expect black students from inner city schools, schools you claim are so horrible they require vouchers to get away from, to have the same grades as well funded, white suburban schools? Unless you're now claiming those inner city public schools are just fine and don't need vouchers for those kids to escape from? Which is it? Do they have the same level of education or not?
     
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    It's a false question.
     
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    No it's not. It's real. You can see it right there in black and green. If you have no answer, that's cool.
     
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    My job is done. I wanted to get some lefties to denounce color blindness as a goal for our society and I've succeeded admirably. I don't know how a multicultural, multicultural, and multiethnic democratic society is going to succeed without it however. You won't be able to give all citizens equal rights, that's for sure.

    Well enjoy!
     
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    Cool. See ya!
     
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    Poor schools are sadly common in our country and their negative impact is not limited to Black children. (I myself was the product of such a poor system in rural southern Indiana.) Vouchers, and the valiant parents who want them, are a symptom of this. The answer is not to divide our children by race, but to do better for all of them. As McWhorter points out, the consequences of such division by race are devastating for those ostensibly being helped. In the end, the goal remains what MLK dreamed about: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
     
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    Uh huh. OK.

    Here's another quote from MLK

    Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community? - Wikipedia

    Still a fan? Here's some more:

    The Forgotten Teachings of Martin Luther King - by Paul Rockwell / Human & Civil Rights /In Motion Magazine



    Sound familiar?

    Lastly, Critical Race Theory doesn't divide people by color. It aligns perfectly with the civil rights movement. It teaches what this country did and how the systems made it easy for those things to happen. School choice isn't a solution. The solution is to help the poor performing schools. Not abandon them and say, tough, deal with it.
     
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    I suspect you and I are largely in agreement about schools, and guaranteed income is a worthwhile idea. For the rest, racial preferences of course hit a constitutional bar that protects us all, including Blacks. And some of the other listed preferences, for veterans for example, are open to Blacks as well as everyone else. As for CRT and the civil rights movement, the former is a betrayal of the latter, not its fulfillment.
    No, Critical Race Theory Isn’t a New Civil Rights Movement. (Just the Opposite)
    Published by Kenny Xu and Christian Watson

    ". . . The Reverend Wyatt Tee Walker (1928-2018), a leading civil rights activist, and one of King’s closest confidants, spoke out against Critical Race Theory in 2015, years before CRT went mainstream in schools and bestselling books. “Today, too many ‘remedies’—such as Critical Race Theory, the increasingly fashionable post-Marxist/postmodernist approach that analyzes society as institutional group power structures rather than on a spiritual or one-to-one human level—are taking us in the wrong direction,” he wrote in a co-authored article. “[These ideas] separat[e] even elementary school children into explicit racial groups, and emphasizing differences instead of similarities.”. . . ."
     
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    Could you speak for yourself please. To what do you attribute the cavernous disparities between American blacks and whites regarding family wealth, unemployment, health, incarceration, education, family stability?
     
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    No, they don't hit a bar at all. They only do when white people argue against them because they don't like their share of the pie being shrunk. They've gotten too used to having a massive portion by a system that benefits them.

    I didn't claim critical race theory was a new civil rights movement. Only your opinion piece does that. It's sadly a more accurate look at the racist issues this country has faced and how they've shaped our outcome to date. That's called education. Not a movement. You keep trying to shift the argument and move the goal posts, but that's your issue. Not mine.
     
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    Liberals claim "CRT" isn't being taught.

    Yet a cursory review of the go-to CRT textbook "CRT: An Introduction" has - in its table of contents - many of the anti-white topics being smuggled into schools around the country.

    Call it what you want - there is a massive amount of leftist fallacy here - 'Muh No True CRT' fallacy - being propagated. But schools are trying to smuggle this in and I don't think a single liberal here or anywhere has proven otherwise. Teaching kids that their skin color should make them feel ashamed is A PART of CRT - and it's reprehensible, and should be banned.
     
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    Yes, CRT is teaching kids to be ashamed of their white skin, but lets not forget that the teaching goes one step further by insisting that white skinned people are 'PRIVILEGED' at the expense of the poor victimized minorities.
     
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    Hmmm.
     
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    My apologies, the bar is statutory, not constitutional. It's the CRA of 1964.
     
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    It is lucky for us all that there are smart people available to help work out the analysis.
    'Systemic Racism' vs. 'Racial Inequities'

    Loury & McWhorter, Substack

    "I’ve spent a lot of time here at TGS pushing back against the idea that something called “systemic racism” is the primary cause of racial disparities in the US. Not only is this idea overly simplistic and ahistorical, it’s often invoked by so-called antiracist activists in order to cow their opponents into silence. If you question the idea that systemic racism is responsible for black academic underperformance, black poverty, or black crime, you’re denying the the existence of the problem, and so you’re part of the problem, and so you’re likely a racist yourself. Or so the argument goes.

    Of course, I don’t deny there’s a problem. To the contrary, I think there are huge problems facing black communities in this country. Moreover, I don’t deny that systemic racism has existed in many forms for much of this country’s history: slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, the list goes on. The effects of these historical forms of truly systemic racism are still palpable in some ways. But they don’t come close to explaining the kind of disparities we see today.

    In the excerpt below, John McWhorter and I delve into why both the idea of systemic racism and the phrase itself are insufficient to explain what they purport to explain. As always, I’m curious to know what you think. Let me know in the comments! . . . "
     
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    ????? The same way white students from inner city schools are expected to do so.
     
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