How a Glock works

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We talk about automatic guns, semi automatic guns and a bullet per squeeze of the trigger guns. Thus encouraging me to post a very interesting short video explaining how the Austrian made Glock works.

    The Glock is a number of moving parts and has 3 safeties. Were you aware it has 3 safeties and who here fired the Glock? Would you buy one?

     
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    I have a G21 45. Fires great.
     
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    Is it very good at killing people?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    It has more safeties than. You are counting, two are universal to any firearm.
     
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    No.
     
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    Glocks are fine carry guns I suppose. I won’t buy a Glock because they don’t offer a manual safety. Doesn’t fit my use case.

    Now, offer me a G40 with an ergonomic thumb safety and I’d bite...
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Two types of manual safeties can be added to a glock
    Trigger Block ... I used one of these for a couple years... they can also be obtained for other guns such as revolvers or other semis with the Glock style safe trigger. Also called PopBlok, saf-T-Block
    Sliderlock... a button safety...I use this now and have trained extensively with it
    A couple people I know use the Trigger Sheath.

    Like any firearm with a manual safety, I’d recommend training with it until it’s use is instinctive. Train with your carry mode.
    With my G26, I use a Techna Clip for IWB (wouldn’t do without a manual safety means) and I carry it with either the 10rnd mag or a G17 mag with an xblock mag wrap, depending on the concealment situation. I carry 1 or 2 G17 mag spares or G19 spare. My choices of which configuration depend on my concealment needs. Tested my setups extensively, 1000’s rounds, for reliability, which works for me, but suggest you do the same rather than take my word on things....just suggesting options to explore.

    BTW, two safeties for every firearm aside from muzzle awareness and control, trigger finger discipline and the most important one; a brain.
     
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    Video says 3 safeties.

    I hope those who watched this video found something good about it.
     
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    I think those have value for carry guns. I need a manual safety that can be engaged/disengaged at will while the firearm is deployed. I’ll have to look at the slider lock. I think I could get used to a Glock if I just carried for self defense.
    I’ve never owned a firearm without a manual safety so disengaging one has always been default. It would be very difficult for me to not try to disengage a safety before firing.

    Good advice all around though on practice.
    I know Glock manufactures models with thumb safeties, but as far as I know you can’t get one in the States. I kind of hoped they would win the US military contract just so they would be more likely to market a manual safety in the US.
    There are some custom shops that will smith one.
    https://www.usacarry.com/glock-manual-safety-kit-by-cominolli-custom/
    Again, good advice!
     
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    I like cutaway animations. Thanks for posting. This subforum needs more threads/posts. :)
     
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    Installing a slider lock is not that difficult and can be installed for left hand or right hand activation. Many guns show’s have a glock mechanic booth; they can do the installation in less than 5min.
    But, again, like becoming familiar with any EDC piece, train using it until it’s use is automatic.... you can always revert back if it’s not a solution for you.
    I have know of many accidental discharge of Glocks due to lapses in the combination of a lack of trigger finger discipline and the ‘safe trigger’ mechanism by even well trained professionals. But, even where someone observes good trigger discipline, holstering, or other activity has the potential where the safety lever on the trigger can be depressed putting the gun in a dangerous condition... one reason why having a well design holster is a wise thing. Any type of pocket carry or NY carry method is not advised, but is frequently done. I, like you, prefer a bit more positive security... why, in my case I prefer a slider lock on mine. But then, 98% of the time I carry concealed, but have found using the combination of the Sliderlock and the Techna Clip allows a safe, retentive means of carry that provides a broader range in conceal options for Me for which I have extensively tested and trained for safety, practicability, and reliability.
    BTW, on non obvious advantage is if the safety is engaged, someone picking up the gun in a struggle is unlike to quickly know how to know how to disengage the safety give you a small measure of additional safety.
     
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    I am more pleased today than earlier that I brought up this topic. I do not recall ever firing a Glock.

    I have fired a variety up to .50 Cal though. Including machine guns.
     
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    Glocks are reliable guns but the ergonomics are ok for some, bricks for others. My G26, more accurate than my G17 for me, is naturally printable. Mine is custom modified by me and I like it, but my EDC preference is one of my 1911’s or my HK 45C, depending on my concealment needs.
    Everyone has their druthers, I know mine, but never suggest what works for me should be a solution for anyone else, despite being asked frequently by others what they should get.
     
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    D62C4519-6C71-491F-A9D4-2A78C0895E6E.jpeg I’ve been carrying Glocks for 30 years.

    They are very tough, not picky about ammunition, extremely reliable, remarkably accurate, virtually incapable of rusting, and they are easy and inexpensive to fix if a part wears out.

    The most important safety is with the operator. The habit of keeping your trigger finger off the trigger until you have decided to fire must be ingrained in the operator because a Glock does not have a manual safety.

    The Glock pistol should be carried in a holster that covers over the trigger. It is not safe to carry loose in a pocket or stuffed into your waistband.

    Also, in order to remove the slide for routine cleaning, the trigger must be pulled. This means that the operator must be absolutely sure that the gun is empty beforehand. If you forget to clear the chamber, you’re going to accidentally fire the gun when you pull that trigger.

    So if you can’t keep your trigger finger straight and up above the trigger guard until you have decided to shoot, or if you’re careless about clearing the pistol empty, this is not the gun for you.

    But if you train yourself to have trigger finger discipline, and you pay attention to what you’re doing when you clear the pistol, then you will be carrying what is widely regarded as the best fighting pistol on the market.

    Seth

    Here are two of the 3 Glock’s I own.

    Top: Glock 26 9mm
    Bottom: Glock 42 .380
     
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    Do you have a link to the Sliderlock you use? I can’t seem to find it. A couple blocks that you push out of the trigger guard is all I can locate. I want to make sure we are discussing the same thing. Thanks.
    I conceal carry some, but my main use of firearms is farm/ranch related. Invariably I find myself running through a plum thicket with an unholstered firearm. Or falling in the snow with an unholstered firearm. Even once being knocked flat and trampled by a bovine, losing physical control of a firearm. I don’t have any interest in having a plum branch snag the trigger or having snow packed into the trigger guard depressing the trigger without an engaged manual safety. Your mention of professionals having accidental discharges is spot on. Trigger finger discipline can’t stop things snagging a trigger when a Glock is out of a holster or being re-holstered.
    Good point. The two handguns I use most are the 1911 and the FN fiveSeven. Probably a lot of especially older generation would know the 1911 safety, but the FN has an index finger safety most wouldn’t figure out quickly. The Sliderlock you describe sounds uncommon enough it would certainly foil most people at least temporarily.
     
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    Good post, but you should be more explicit with your description of what makes a Glock a good pistol... having a brain, the ultimate Glock accessory.
     
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    Some refer to it as Slide Lock or Sliderlock.
    Here is one source, but their are others less expensive...
    https://www.opticsplanet.com/lone-wolf-siderlock-glock-gen1-4-security-trigger.html
     
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    Haha! I try to be tactful. :wink:
     
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    Sure now, how many people you train do you smack up side the head? Or, at least, the temptation is there to do so?
     
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    I have trained literally thousands of people over the years, and I have seen everything.
     
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    I’ve trained quite a few myself, probably not thousands, but enough to know there are some things that cannot be conveyed by training no matter how good an instructor you or I might be. The best you can do is do your best and continue trying to improve your methodsi, something if you are like me, you will never stop. But at the end of the day, you can’t accompany each student for the rest of their life. You do your best, but, unfortunately, you can’t count on a student to do theirs.... there was s that and the problem of getting someone to learn learning is a never ending life long process. Hell, my firearms training started soon after learning to walk, and after 60 years with firearms I am still learning about them... and myself.
     
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    What we do is insist on the trigger finger discipline. We are willing to warn two times. On a third offense, they are out - removed from training. Nobody wants that, so it works well.

    Muzzle awareness is also expected and if a muzzle gets pointed at anyone, they’re out.

    Safety procedures overlap each other and are often redundant.

    It’s worth it.

    “A bullet has no conscience, no regrets.”
     
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    Yes, when they leave us, they’re on their own, so we do the best we can.
     
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    I still can’t figure out the shooting yourself by pulling the trigger for takedown. Who takes down a gun without clearing the weapon?
     

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