How about a new abortion law

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by logical1, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You are wrong. But thanks for your opinion.
    And the need, is only created for those who don't want a baby at that point in the life of the future mother and perhaps even future father.
    They may not be financially ready and we know the R's won't want the mother and baby to receive food stamps and medical care courtesy of the gov't.
     
  2. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Sure, blame it all on the R's. It's that type of mentality that makes people like you "pro-choice" to begin with, or shall we say, "kill-at-will". The mentality of taking no responsibility for your own actions.
     
  3. dairyair

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    An admission you don't care about the life of those involved.
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Let's just say I care more about the lives of those being killed, and the brutal culture it represents, than I do the financial readiness of those doing the killing.
     
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  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    No you don't. Not 1 single iota. Only that they be born, after that, they can suffer and be abused for all you seem to care.
    You have no idea of what the parents situation would be. No money, no job, perhaps abusive.
    So, don't give this high and might rant you actually care. As soon as they are born, they are on their own. And you as much admitted to it.
     
  6. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make a good case for more intervention into who will be allowed to be parents.
     
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    Why is he paying a fine and she is not?
     
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    No, what you currently posting are misconceptions, erroneous ideas and flat out conspiracy theories

    WTF the bolded part

    Are you serious or are you Trolling??
     
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    Which is WHY they use anesthetics for surgical abortion procedures that ensure that the fetus is incapable of feeling any pain.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Essentially you want to DICTATE to everyone else in the entire nation that they can NOT have sex EXCEPT when they INTEND to ensure that there is a successful pregnancy! :eek: Unfortunately, as BB pointed out, 70% of the time that will fail anyway resulting in an abortion and there is NOTHING that you can do to alter that REALITY.

    Then there is your problem of ENFORCING your dictatorial DEMAND that no one is allowed to have sex except when you say they can. You keep dodging this question as to exactly how you intend to enforce your draconian beliefs on the rest of society? Chastity belts and penis cages with the hundreds of millions of keys to the locks all stored away under your safekeeping? Or do you have some other alternative method that will work?
     
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    Scientists do understand how neural networks function. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
     
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  12. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many of your contentions are patently false and deceptive. Read more below. Part of that is for you, as well.

    Hey guys, I'm done here. I'd appreciate if you would move on with your lives.

    Bowerbird, I know you think I am a misogynist and want to take away women's rights. That isn't true. I haven't said anything like that. I've only offered options. It's a woman's right to choose, but she can't have a choice unless she knows what they are.
     
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    Ironic given that you are part of the masses of anti-abortionists who want to deprive women of their freedom of choice and thus deprive them of their pursuit of happiness.

    Why do only YOUR beliefs count and no one else's?
     
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    No, they don't agree!

    There are 5 different hypotheses regarding when human life begins and in order to prove that one of them is right you have to disprove the other 4. Where is your evidence to disprove those other hypotheses?
     
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    Ironic given how that describes your own posts.

    Here is a link the PROVES that what I said about anesthesia during abortions to be FACTUALLY ACCURATE.

    https://www.mariestopes.org.uk/wome...plained/what-will-happen-me-surgical-abortion

    In essence you cannot answer the difficult questions as to how you would impose your own beliefs on the rest of society without violating their constitutional rights.

    Got it!

    Have a nice Xmas day!
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause: :banana:
     
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    Please NOTE how all Anti-Choicers swear they aren't misogynists but then insult the hell out of women by thinking they need special education as if women don't know what pregnancy, abortion, life long damage, adoption, are....

    BUT then the Anti-Choicers show great ignorance by not knowing the fetus is attached to the woman it's in, they have NO idea of what pregnancy entails or that it costs money or that women aren't obliged to use birth control....but they think WOMEN need educating...

    :roflol::roflol::roll::roflol: When FACTS hit them....bye bye :)
     
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    Thanks, great post....this is the poster who thinks WOMEN need to be educated ....:)
     
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    Ya, until they're born....and then you don't seem to care about them....why is a fetus so sacred to you??

    YES, it IS the R's who want to cut funding to social programs for children, like WIC, Welfare, SNAP, CHIP, even cutting healthy school lunches!...showing clearly and accurately that they do NOT care once that that fetus, that BARGAINING CHIP, is born. They can't use it any longer to control women so it then means nothing.
     
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    I think Chester has some personal problems and is envious of younger men who women find more appealing. . . . Rejection syndrome.

    The contradictions in posts 617 and 621 are not-so-subtle indications of a fragile ego.

    I am an older widower no longer sexually active, but I feel no need to blame or punish others for my own celibacy.
     
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    Sorry but if you are using contraception and it fails then that most assuredly causes an unwanted pregnancy. What is the primary reason for abortion........?
     
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    So... if the woman is homeless and in a precarious situation that is not enough!
     
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    In previous threads, a plethora of CONSERVATIVE MEN adamantly asserted that they shouldn't be held financially responsible for THEIR OWN CHILDREN born as a result of unplanned pregnancies, and even more conservatives resent government aid to help support needy children. . . . Yet it is predominantly self-righteous, meddlesome conservative males with NO vested interest flaunting the pro-life banners. . . . Many now even saying women should not be allowed to vote.
     
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    To conservatives, it's only a woman.
     
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    One of the neanderthals had the gall to start a thread about why women even need to be educated.
    They are a sick lot who all should be not allowed to vote.
     

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