How do you stop a robbery if you are not allowed to carry a gun?

Steal the idiot's car keys from the get away car

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-24/gold-coast-man-disrupts-robbery-by-stealing-car-keys/7110384

Oh! Ah! A little explanation - in Australia we wear thongs on our feet!

 

store owner can keep a gun in the store.

store employees can be armed

 

Oh! Wow! Did not read post at all

Store was empty

See we do not seem to have the daylight robberies you do - possibly because our CRIMINALS ARE MOSTLY UNARMED!

 

We could use SJW (social justice warriors) like yourself in the many violent cities here in America. I'm sure there is really nothing for you to do Down Under in your hospitals, no shootings, no stabbings or beatings---so why not make yourself useful and get a Visa to work in Chicago, Baltimore, or Detroit?

You could set up a stolen gun buy back program table in the middle of the most violent ganglands. You could even form a roving band of crusaders that take the keys out of gangsta's cars.

 

Good one.

 

If I wanted to work in a war zone I would volunteer for Syria

That is right the only countries where you can get more experience treating gunshot wounds than America are active war zones or third world countries with corrupt politics

I rather like that I do not have the GWS experience that most US nurses have - knife wounds are easier to deal with since a lot are superficial

My point is that without the "guns are the only answer" mentality people find other ways to deal with situations. I this case these blokes actually chased the would be thieves down the road - because they knew the odds of them being armed were not high

This is a question I have yet to hear answered from gun lovers

What if disarming the general public meant you also disarmed a majority of criminals??

 

Then I would still want to keep mine to have the advantage over the criminals. Why do your police carry guns?

 

It's pretty rare when a legal CCW is the source of GSWs in ERs.
Take the guns from known criminals first. Until then, there is no reason expect the law abiding to listen to anti gun rhetoric.

 

What if Australia was not like the rest of the world? What if the gun laws like you have didn't work---then what?

Do you think the ghetto ganglands of Chicago and Detroit look more like Syria, more like Liberia---or more like Hobart or Christchurch or Perth?

How well have gun laws, that are far more restrictive in Mexico than in AnZac lands, worked? They are a complete and utter failure, and have not stopped the gangs from getting guns anymore than it has stopped them from getting illegal narcotics.

Is the root cause of warfare in Syria because of guns and bombs, or because of Sunni Muslims killing and driving off everyone else?

The solution to the majority of gun crimes is the same solution for places like Syria. Contain them (street gangs, ISIS, al Queada). Find the bad guys and punish them. And change their toxic culture/religion over time.

 

Theirs is not to only toxic culture in dire need of change over time. That's why SJW's have come into being.

 

Wild dogs, feral pigs occasional croc

Our police are not just tied up trying to deal with the horrific gun death rate - they have time to do other things as well

 

So there it is - you agree that taking guns from criminals is a GOOD idea - then why not do it?

 

But they have been working well for the last 20 years - why would they stop working now?

When it comes to incidence of GSW - yes. We have ED nurses who have spent entire careers in ED and never seen a gunshot wound - can YOUR health care professionals say the same thing?

BTW Christchurch is in NZ - different country

Well, poor old Mexico has the misfortune of sharing a border with a gun manufacturing nation - and they have long standing issues with police and political corruption. Gun restrictions have worked in other places in the world apart from Aussie land

Irrelevant

Meh!! If the issue is "bad guys" then why is this not a world wide issue? Why does not every country have the same level of gun violence?

We had a would be terrorist shoot someone - we not only got the perpetrator but the people who supplied the gun were traced and every one of them went down - HARD!!

This is one difference - we trace back the guns and hold those people who supplied the hardware accountable

 

We all agree that violent criminals shouldn't be able possess guns...... We should make that a law,..........oh wait, it is.
Do it without restricting rights of anyone who is legally eligible of owning a firearm.

 

Unless I'm mistaken they carry a pistol with them. If that be the case then I would trust my life to a 9mm to kill a wild pigs. The police face the same threats as the citizens, just more often.

 

You've never hunted wild pigs, have you....

 

So is it a "right" to on sell your firearm to those who would not otherwise pass the legibility test?

 

Honestly they are more likely to use the guns on wild or feral dogs. See again we do not have sheer number of armed criminals you do - we do have armed criminals but not the young casual crims - they have difficulty getting a gun because unlike the USA you cannot walk down the main street here yelling "guns wanna buy me some guns!!"

 

once they have payed their debt to society for past crimes, they should have all rights restored

if we want them punished longer, we give them longer sentences

should a child not be able to live in a safe house because their mother or father got in a bar fight as a young adult?

all free Americans have the right to own a gun to protect their homes and families

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Your words..... not mine.

Mine were:

We all agree that violent criminals shouldn't be able possess guns...... We should make that a law,..........oh wait, it is.
Do it without restricting rights of anyone who is legally eligible of owning a firearm.

 

I am the biggest proponent of our right to keep and bear arms that you will ever find...I make the NRA look like wussies...but this notion that a firearm is the only weapon that can be used to stop or prevent a crime is total horsepucky. The best weapon you have is your brain...if you are lacking there, other weapons are probably not going to help you much. There are also weapons of opportunity that, when combined with that brain, can be very effective.

While I might prefer to have a firearm, I am not defenseless without one.

 

Unfortunately many Americans are not physically able to defend themselves without a firearm.

 

If one can use a firearm, there are plenty of other means they can use to defend themselves as well. That dog don't hunt and is an insult to the vast majority of handicapped folks. I prefer to tell folks how they CAN do something, rather than peddling a loser/victim mentality by telling them that they CAN'T.

 

You comprehension of America and much of the rest of the world is quite lacking.

Guns are not root cause of violence, if they were, then there would have been no human conflict before 500 years ago.

Rural America with lots of guns is just as peaceful as most of Australia with fewer guns. It is the bad people who allowed to run wild in the urban liberal wastelands that drive up crime.

America does make about half of the world's firearms---but virtually the narcotics like cocaine and heroin come from Mexico, Central and South America and Asia.

Are the murders in the drug trade a result of guns, or is it because of the drugs?

As your nation lets in more pagans, like the last guy from Iran that had not problem getting a gun and shooting defenseless victims in a chocolate shop, expect more business at your hospital.

I see problems with people, not with guns.

 

Elderly folks, folks in wheel chairs, small framed women, have all taken firearm courses with me. They do so because they say they are vulnerable to larger thugs with guns and multiple attackers.