How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President? Very carefully.

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    So telling white people to shut their mouths is anti racist now... wow. So telling black people to shut their mouths is anti racist too? Or does it only apply to white people?

    Seems we gone to the whole, some races can't be racist because of their race, talking point I predicted on page 1. If I say black people need to shut their mouths and listen, is that racist?
     
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    In 2008 I believe Senator John Edwards came in 3rd in the primaries... in his own state. The writing is on the wall.
     
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    Umm. Your like minded friends at far left Politico......
     
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    They are so warped they literally believe telling white people to shut their mouths and listen is anti racist.
     
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    That's true !!!


    The uneducated are so funny at times but they are the funniest when defending their RACISM and SEXISM....
     
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    :) Gee, I am so sorry I didn't impress you.....but then you're impressed by the likes of the Orange Grunt-in-Chief...


    Your complete lack of knowledge of history , even the just last century , is VERY impressive!!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) after 200 plus years how does having the shoe on the other foot feel? Pinch a little ? :)




    :) Pouty, pouty!

    Gee, just look at how you can work up a rant over my post...:)

    I ask how it feels to be treated like a woman or a minority and it REALLY HIT A SORE VERY DEFENSIVE SPOT WITH REPUBS :)


    Too funny !!
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    :) after 200 plus years how does having the shoe on the other foot feel? Pinch a little ? :)





    Could you tell me WTF that has to do with the post of mine you quoted???
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    The Repub wrapping has always been white...and they sure want it to stay that way. :)






    Uh, why do you quote my posts and then rant about something else?....it's not a good sign.....

    Just post away, you don't need to quote me to talk about something else..
     
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    And that exact example is used almost daily here on PF.
     
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    Great question! For the entire history of this nation, the straight white guy has been at the top of the heap. Now that people of other colors and sexual orientations are starting to reach for the top, the straight white guys are crying racism. The threat to their dominance must be labelled as something other than what it is...progress for all people. I dearly hope that I will live long enough to see a time when color and sexual orientation are not used as descriptors.
     
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    There is plenty of evidence of his racist beliefs and actions prior to his run for presidency, if anyone cares to look. But until he became a contender for the leader of the country, he was just another loud mouthed rich white guy. Once he ran, however, the stories had more importance...and they started coming out.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    We have no idea if they were smarter or not. We do know, however, that they were the only ones given the opportunity to receive good education and hold those purse strings, smarter or not. We have entered a new day - where people of color are given that opportunity of education, and we are discovering that they are every bit as smart.
     
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    Oppression is never funny. Especially on racial grounds. I thought this was meant to be a common value.
     
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    No kidding! lol. Just because a law was abolished (slavery) or a new law enacted (women gaining the vote) did society just open their arms to blacks and women and give them equal opportunity the very next day? Surely they were given access to power easily and granted top positions in banks or other important institutions. And I'm sure they were welcomed to run for office and many voted for them.
     
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    Yeah, "Pathetic" and "HILARIOUS!" I'm betting you never dealt with, or personally suffered from REVERSE DISCRIMINATION (a.k.a., "Affirmative Action") have you? Right after I graduated from college I ran straight into it, face first, like a brick wall. Have you?

    And later on in life, I dealt with the labyrinthine world of Federal Government contracting -- which deliberately "sets-aside" many millions of dollars in awards for contracts involving both goods and services for MINORITIES, and "woman-owned" businesses. If you are working in a company that is simply made up of ordinary people YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO SUBMIT A BID! This completely unfair, unconstitutional travesty continues to this day -- and nobody even takes notice of it....

    Yeah, cry us a river and tell us all how bad it is for minorities. Try to remember -- the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were, indeed, very good and necessary things... but they went firmly into effect over well over FIFTY YEARS AGO. So, who's bitching the loudest and the most now? Opportunists who seek something to gain by constantly and ENDLESSLY being professionally "aggrieved"....
     
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    Because it’s still almost two years until the election and unlike all the new faces coming forwards, neither of them need the kind of long, slow burn campaign to gather public recognition?
     
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    LOL! What "oppression" ?

    Any white guy can run for the Presidency....as they have for over 200 years....what "oppression"? You mean competition? Is that what they're so afraid of :)
     
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    Idiots. ;)
     
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    Please refer to post 142 for a dose of reality.

    A total lack of knowledge of American history doesn't help your "argument" :)
     
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    Post #142 by @Pants reads:

    "No kidding! lol. Just because a law was abolished (slavery) or a new law enacted (women gaining the vote) did society just open their arms to blacks and women and give them equal opportunity the very next day? Surely they were given access to power easily and granted top positions in banks or other important institutions. And I'm sure they were welcomed to run for office and many voted for them."

    Facts? Slavery was abolished in the U. S. in December 1865. Women were provided the right to vote in national elections in August, 1920.

    Now, as far as your broadly-brushed, conflated commentary about being "given access to power easily", society's "open arms" and being "granted top positions in banks or other important institutions" goes -- are you suggesting that merely because of a person's skin color or because of the construction of a person's genitals and hormones that they should automatically be GIVEN anything?

    Do you imagine that one might be required to EARN one's way into top corporate positions? Probably not. Liberals rarely feel that one should have to work to ACHIEVE success... instead, they have deluded themselves into thinking that anyone who has ever been a 'minority' or a female in nearly the past 100 years or more should automatically and simply have rewards, titles, powers, and authority CONFERRED on them as an entitlement, without regard to quality, value, or qualification! Dream on....

    [​IMG]. "Dammit -- it was MY TURN to rule!"
     
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    When AA was introduced in 1961, it required that government employers "not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin" and "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin".

    Do you think that, in 1961, employers towed the line? Do you think that this new 'law' changed the employment or business habits of all employers? Do you think that when women were added to that list in 1967 that women were automatically given equal opportunity and treatment in the workplace?

    AA was, indeed, controversial when it was implemented. And I understand why there are folks who wonder whether it is still necessary in 2019. And I can understand why a white guy might feel his country is abandoning him and his rights if he is not given equal access to opportunities, simply because of the color of his skin.

    But the sad reality is that we are not yet color blind. We are not yet sex blind. We are not yet sexual orientation blind. That is evidenced every time a female politician is discussed - it doesn't take long before her appearance is at issue. Or how she dresses or wears her hair. (And before you jump on the fact that Trump's appearance is attacked by the left, I will agree that it is wrong.) We may want to think that AA is no longer necessary, but attitudes have not yet changed completely - and until they do, there is a need for legislation in place that will ensure we do not back slide.

    I am genuinely sorry that you have run into brick walls because you are a white guy. Just as I am genuinely sorry for any women or people of color who run into brick walls because of who they are, rather than what they can offer.
     
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    I’ll take Washington, Adams, Franklin, Jefferson, and Lincoln over Maxine Waters and AOC.

    The gap is so wide that it’s hard to believe those women are even in the same species as those great men.
     
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    Actually, I don't believe that anyone should be GIVEN anything. They need to EARN it. But sadly, if not given the opportunity, they cannot begin to earn anything. I don't believe in entitlement - I believe in opportunity. And sadly, it was determined 100 years after the abolishment of slavery, that laws had to be enacted because people of color still weren't given opportunity.

    If you look at this forum - in 2019 - people are criticizing the Dem party as being anti-white because of the number of people of color who are running for president! We've come a looooong way baby, but we still have a looooong way to go before we recognize ALL people as equal.
     
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    I agree that everyone should be treated in an equal, fair way, and you're right... we have come a "looooong way". And that's a good thing, indeed. We have already seen the emergence of powerful and effective female leaders throughout the world -- Former British Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, Former President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, and current German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, being three of them. And, obviously, Black Americans have made enormous strides since the mid-1960's, resulting in no less than the two-term presidency of Barack Obama in the United States.

    But, no, we don't have full, unvarnished "equality" in this country (or any other in the world, for that matter). I've already pointed out that Reverse Discrimination (a.k.a., "Affirmative Action") still exists legally in the United States, even though it is flat-out obviously unconstitutional! And, the lesser-known but horrible practice of "setting-aside" many millions of dollars in Federal Contracts exclusively for award to minority and 'woman-owned' small business companies remains solidly entrenched in every Federal Government Contracting office in the United States!

    So, it is isn't all one-sided -- not at all. But we never see the Left even bothering to talk about anything but their constant rant demanding 'entitlement' to this, that, and other things -- based on nothing but race, and/or gender.
     

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