How many White Supremacists do you know?

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How Many White Supremacists Do You Know?

Poll closed May 9, 2020.
  1. None

    70.3%
  2. One

    10.8%
  3. 2 to 5

    10.8%
  4. 6 or more

    8.1%
  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    No would have sufficed.
     
  2. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    You sure?
     
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    Then I'm sure you will have no problem unequivocally condemning the act of assaulting someone for wearing a MAGA hat.

    It should go something like this: "I, Tecoyah, unequivocally condemn the act of assaulting someone for wearing a MAGA hat. There is no justification of any kind for committing acts of violence against people for merely wearing a hat."

    No time like the present.
     
  4. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says the guy who said "miscegenation" and "immigration" as two of his "why I hate conservatives" response.

    Would you like me to explain what a strawman is? I've never seen a leftist use the term correctly before.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Literacy fail and second straw man.

    Example: claiming that I used "miscegenation" and "immigration" as two "why I hate conversatives" responses, when in fact I specifically made the distinction between conservatives and ACTUAL white supremacists, and those were part of what distinguished white supremacists and conservatives at large. Get it now?

    TL;DR, when you make up fake arguments and assign them to others instead of addressing what they actually said. Not rocket surgery here.

    And I've never seen you used the term "leftist" correctly before.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Regardless of the distinction you tried, it's still not a strawman.

    You mentioned miscegenation and immigration as two of the things that differentiate between white supramcists and conservatives.

    Since majority white countries are the only countries that allow either of those things in large numbers, you failed to show this is a characteristic of "white nationalists".

    What it is, in truth, is the standard operating procedure for pretty much every country that isn't majority white.

    I suppose that means white nationalist ideology is simply the major ideology of the world. Different races, but same ideology.
     
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    I can see how you might have some trouble discerning the difference.
     
  8. yardmeat

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    The "distinction" was there to begin with. Trying to erase that distinction in order to change my words to not only something I didn't even come close to saying, but something directly contradicted by my words, is definitely a straw man. Maybe the most extreme example I've seen in the past few months, honestly.

    Yes. Thank you for acknowledging that instead of continuing to falsely claim that these were criticisms of conservatives.

    Complete non-sequitur, and not even a well-formed one. White nationalists are people who want a white ethnostate. They don't run our country, so what our country is currently doing has nothing to do with the the nature of white nationalists. What other countries do matters even less.

    If that were true, every nation would be an ethnostate. They aren't. And even if it were true, white nationalism would still be white nationalism. "Other people do it too!!!!" isn't a magic spell that makes the truth go poof.

    You can suppose all you want. Check back in with reality any time, though.

    Psst, other races aren't white. And if you want to you can of course keep believing that an ethnostate is a the norm and that it is typical for countries to ban all immigration outside a specific race. It isn't true, but you are of course free to believe it. It would only make enthnostates popular . . . which has nothing to do with anything I've said. Nothing I said has anything to do with the popularity of such a brain fart.
     
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    No, it wasn't.

    You see I wrote that before you responded. Therefore your distinction didn't yet exist.

    You did differentiate between the two. You can understand why I'm sure, since typically MAGA hat = Nazi here.

    Most nations are ethnostates in reality, if not by law. Africa. Asia. etc, etc. To the degree of high 90%s in most cases.

    You can say it's not true, but that doesn't change the reality of the population of most countries.
     
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    Yes, it was. Try reading the thread. The post you quoted from me was, itself, a response. I was asked what I considered a white supremacist, so I answered. You tried changing my comment to make it about conservatives as a whole, despite the fact that I had dismissed such nonsense before you even ever quoted me.

    Yes, I did differentiate. And what you consider "typical" has nothing to do with my comments and is in fact the direct opposite of what I've said on this thread. Try reading post #16.

    Africa and Asia are not nations.

    And you can keep trying to make an argument that has nothing to do with my comments and doesn't actually addressed anything I've said. The popularity of these bad ideas has nothing to do with anything I was saying. "But it is popular!!!!!" is a bad, bad argument. Moving from straw men to argumentum ad populum isn't helping your case.
     
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    Right.

    You responded to me after I had posted twice already.

    That makes it hard for me to read a response that doesn't exist yet.

    You're right. Africa and Asia are not nations. All the nations inside Africa and Asia that are 90%+ one race are nations though.

    Oh but it does address it. You want "white nationalists" to be horrible people, when what they really are, is just like most of the people in the world.

    They're not the exception, they're the norm.

    As I said, different races, same ideology. We know, for example, that Mexicans and Indians are two of the most racist groups on earth.

    Yet I'm sure you support both of them coming here, since to do otherwise would be "racist".
     
  12. PatriotNews

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    The Republicans have never embraced white supremacy as the Democrats did for over 100 years.

    Trump, "...and I'm not talking about the white supremacists and the Neo-Nazis because they should be condemned TOTALLY".



    Biden, "My state is a slave state".

     
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    Several hours and posts have gone by and you have yet to condemn physical assaults against people wearing MAGA hats. I’ll take that as a NO. You will not condemn assault against people wearing a hat. You will, instead, continue to approve of the behavior, claiming the hat wearers will have to “deal with their choice,” meaning in your view they deserve to be assaulted.
     
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    Post #16 was before you posted anything. Try again. No need for time travel.

    You'll need to have some actual proof if you want to actually demonstrate that most people support ethnostate authoritarianism. You'll also have to figure out how to make your point without a blatant argumentum ad populum. Also, if the philosophy is so popular, why do you claim that you've never met a white supremacist?

    Once again, popularity has nothing to do with the issue. Leftism is popular, yet you don't seem to like it very much. Hmm.

    God forbid I try to think about individualism instead of trying to base immigration policy on racial stereotypes. Wouldn't want little things like logic and reason interrupting entertaining nonsense.
     
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    Personally: zero.

    Online: its hard to tell the real ones from the agent provocateurs. Probably a handful...
     
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    You mean other than showing you that most countries are 90%+ one race in most of the world?

    I mean you could argue that all the African countries aren't 90%+ black if you'd like to try, but that would just look dumb.

    Leftism isn't popular globally. Ask Venezula and France.
     
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    Trump thinks some white supremacists are "very fine people"
     
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    Robo and internet bots are so smart now they are actually smarter then the above average leftist and have twice the personality!
     
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    I don’t know any...then again I don’t live in the south
     
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    i met a bunch in West Virginia and South Carolina
     
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    You're still falling for that fake nonsense?

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    Back in the late 70's the KKK came to Grand Prairie Tx one Sunday, I remember the day because me and my brother asked our folks who they were and their response was "Racists. You boys leave them alone, don't go around them." When we got home me and my brother changed out of our church clothes and went back over towards Main St where the KKK were handing out fliers. We approached them from the left, where they had one guy by himself, and threw rocks at him and ran when it looked like he was gonna chase us. We were 10 and 11 years old. Fun times.

    From that time to now, I have met two racist white guys. One was a supervisor of mine, who approached the subject while we were alone and I told him I don't play that ****. He never brought it up again. The other was a friend of a girl I was on a date with who was an actual card carrying KKK member. I stopped dating her that night.

    If you think you met a racist and they aren't proud of it, then you didn't meet a racist. They are very proud of it.
     
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    LOL. That's so stupid because the video shows him saying the opposite. Just goes to show how dumbed down the public is by the alt-left treasonous lying bastards in the media.
     
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    Man, if you personally know 6 or more white supremacists, you are hanging around some dirtbag people.
     
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    Lucky you. I haven't been so lucky.
     

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