The Old Testament or Tanakh says that the Messiah will be God incarnate who dies for the sins of the world. Jesus is the Man of Sorrows mentioned in the book of Isaiah.
This conversation reminds me of people who say they dont believe in Jesus because of the actions of the popes and priests.
Complete bovine excrement! Hitler was raised as a DEVOUT Catholic and hatred of the Jews stems from Catholicism and PREDATED him by at least 1500 YEARS. https://theconversation.com/antisem...rys-oldest-hatred-still-hold-sway-today-87878
The Jews brought the Messiah into the world. Satan is the enemy of God. The Bible says that there is spiritual wickedness in high places. Evil is real just look at the world around you. Adolf Hitler was said to have a copy of Helena Blavatsky's book the secret doctrine by his beside. https://haventoday.org/blog/devil-hate-jews/
The Ten Commandments is where YOUR imaginary deity ACKNOWLEDGES that OTHER imaginary deities EXIST so that is NOT a great argument for your position.
NONE of the above addresses the FACT that anti-Semitisam ORIGINATED within Christianity and PREDATES Hitler by at least 1500 YEARS.
The God of the Bible is the one True God. He is Holy and just. The gods in Greek mythology don't talk about holiness and redemption and people being sinners who need a Savior. God is the Creator of everything who created everything with a design and a purpose and He became the Savior.
Are YOU calling YOUR imaginary deity a LIAR because he ACKNOWLEDGES that OTHER imaginary deities EXIST?
I can think of hundreds of scenarios where I would think it morally acceptable to steal. Ever hear of Robin Hood? Society would struggle if there was not a little bit of lying going on, most of us lie to our kids about Santa when they are young. Try again for this universal moral law.
An old book talking magic and woo woo does not explain the murder of 6 million jews by Christians, stop living in denial and acknowledge what your religion caused.
The actions of Priests and Popes are symptoms of their religion, it places people in positions of power and trust then allows them to abuse their trust. I cannot believe you have the nerve to bring up these rapists so often supported by the church.
I think what we have is a Christian who thinks all the important questions have been answered on apologist web sites. My experience of such websites is that they create strawmen that are easily answered and present these as atheist arguments. Works great until the christian actually talks to a real atheist and finds out that these are not the arguments we make, hence the disconnect between the arguments we put and the copy and paste answers we receive. This is particularly true of presups who will do anything to keep the debate on their script.
I suspect that you giving credit where it is not due since thinking is incompatible with believing. You are right about the asinine strawman drivel that is used as a sop to placate those who are might have questions about the endless contradictions and conundrums that are inherent in theist dogma. Pasting screeds of illogical self deluding claptrap demonstrates that there is no intention of actually engaging in substantive debate on the topic itself. As far as I am concerned those screeds are the equivalent of the white flag of surrender acknowledging that they cannot address the difficult pertinent questions by themselves.
There's only one God. The Ten Commandments dont imply that other gods exist it means not to have idols of any kind in one's life. https://www.gotquestions.org/how-many-gods-are-there.html
Even in those cases its not ideal behavior. Its base and an exception to the rule. Its like when talking about Halloween being celebrated by my church youth group that its not a sin but its not appropriate. Your beliefs support that there is a universal moral law. https://www.gotquestions.org/moral-argument.html
There were Messianic Jewish, or Jewish Christian, Holocaust survivors. The Holocaust was caused by Hitlers misdeeds as a human being, not by the teachings of Christ. Thats like blaming Jesus for priest abuse. The Bible says that the heart of man is desperately wicked, in the book of Jeremiah. https://jewsforjesus.org/publicatio...wn-words-messianic-jewish-holocaust-survivors
The actions of priests and popes are not symptoms of the teachings of Jesus or having a relationship with God. The church abusers are not supported by the Bible. They are supported by human beings. https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-abuse.html
I know that Buddhists, Hindus, and mystical Christians do not disagree. They delight in the spiritual insights they share. In fact, from what I have seen, ALL mystical traditions agree.
You might some esoteric Christians who agree with, say, Buddhists on some things and Hindus on others. Mainstream Christians aren't going to agree with either of them on much . . . or often with each other on much. I've had experience in two of these religious traditions. There's a lot they disagree regarding.
The doctrine of mystical Christianity is not consistent with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus came to save humanity and to teach us how to live, not to teach us hidden or mystical or esoteric things. Quoted from oxford languages, mysticism is defined as belief that union with or absorption into the Deity or the absolute, or the spiritual apprehension of knowledge inaccessible to the intellect, may be attained through contemplation and self-surrender. That is different from the message in the Gospels. https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-mysticism.html
