"I dare you to hit my car"

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  1. vman12

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    So renters should just buy a house.
     
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    When a property goes an extended period of time without a renter who is responsible for property taxes out of pocket? The property owner, yes? When the property owner has a tenant the rent pays the property taxes, along with mortgage and whatever fees the landlord charges to maintain the property.
    Given that the renters’ payments cover the property taxes for the property they rent, they pay property taxes. Why is this hard for you to understand?

    Also, you intentionally misrepresented the last sentence of my post to make your point. If you had a shred of integrity you’d address the point I made, clearly about voter suppression, instead of the point you wish I’d made.
     
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    There are numerous barriers to homeownership that are do not exist when renting. People have to live somewhere and are limited by their means. Renting is often the only option available to them.
     
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    Then it's not just as easy as renting.

    Thanks for clarifying for the other poster.
     
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    No, the renter pays the fee the landlord charges.

    The landlord/owner of the property pays the property tax.

    Ask the county property tax assessor if you don't believe me.

    I don't know what you mean by the last part.

    Do you mean your wrong take on sales taxes?
     
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    Except that property ownership generates equity that renting does not. It is far easier for a homeowner to sell a home and buy a new home with the proceeds than it is for a renter to buy their first home. That was the experience of my husband and I, just as it is for the vast majority of Americans. Our first home was the most difficult to acquire.
     
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    Do you smoke crack?
     
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    The landlord charges fees in line with the property taxes for the area. The taxes go up, the rent goes up. Unless landlords choose to bear the weight of property taxes and not raise rents accordingly, the renters pay for the property taxes. Again I don’t know why this is hard for you to understand.

    And again you choose to misrepresent my point pertaining to voter suppression via property ownership as a barrier to vote. If you can’t make a valid argument against my point that’s okay, just don’t misrepresent my words.
     
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    That depends on how much your rent is.

    After the military I rented a place that was as twice as cheap as what I could afford. That gave me the opportunity to save quite a bit in order to buy a house.

    The return on your house takes about 5 years before you're in the red, on average. Unless, of course, you go the fixer-upper route and do the work yourself.
     
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    At best, you could suggest that some of the money you pay to the landlord is then used by the landlord to pay his or her property tax.

    This does not mean you're paying the property tax.

    The landlord could take your rent check and spend it on hookers and blow for all you know.

    Rent goes up every year irrespective of property taxes or anything else.

    The rent goes up based on market value of the rental in question.
     
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    If they have the money.
     
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    So not as easy then. Thanks.
     
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    So, coming up with say 5 grand (low side realistically to get a new rental in a **** area) is JUST as easy as say 20 grand (realistically for a **** house in a ghetto war zone) for the down payment on a house?

    L M A O!
     
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    It is irrelevant what the landlord chooses to spend every dollar paid by their renters on. Assuming the landlord can pay the property taxes on the property, it is because the renters make their rent payments.
    The market value of the home is directly responsible, along with tax increases, for the amount of property taxes that is owed.
     
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    This is what happens when you vote Democrat people.
     
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    The area (school district, economy etc)and crime rates dictate property taxes.
     
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    While I don't agree with the basis that only property owners should vote, your explanation is way off the mark.

    By your explanation, when someone buys a burger at the local joint, the price of that burger includes overhead, things like real estate taxes, personal property taxes, wages etc. Now apply your statement, and perhaps you'll see that it doesn't work.
     
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    Well let's take your argument a step further, using your own "logic".

    You're not paying the property taxes.

    The people who pay your company who pays you to pay your landlord are paying the property taxes.

    No, the market value of the home itself is not the primary driver of the cost of rent.

    The primary driver of the cost of rent is:

    a. supply of rental homes
    b. demand of rental homes
     
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    Which means that the best way to drive down prices is to flood the market with low rent housing.
     
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    Which is then given to illegal aliens, followed by the rapid crime increase.
     
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    And plummeting property values.
     
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    Which then **** the owner, when it's selling time.
     
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    And the landlord, when property repairs are needed... thus driving up rent, and down the quality of renter.
     
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    That’ll teach him!
     
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    Haha
     

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