I just emailed my religious vaccination exemption request to the U.S Department of State. Thoughts?

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  1. jhil2020

    jhil2020 Well-Known Member

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    Accordingly, there exists no logical connection between personal preference, religion, nor political attitudes. Interesting. Nonetheless, if the Feds want to play this game, I'm in to offer pushback against tyranny - as much as I can muster. The raging flames of hell will sooner posses my fingertips on a keyboard than will a COVID-19 vaccine enter my bloodstream.
    The nature of my objection to the COVID-19 vaccination requirement is based upon a sincere belief that is religious in-nature.
    Complying with the COVID-19 vaccination requirement would substantially burden my religious exercise by violating a theological principle central to my spiritual beliefs. That principle is, "that the sole end for which mankind are warranted, either individually or collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can rightfully be exercised over any member of a civilized community, against [one’s] will, is to prevent harm to others. [One’s] own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant. [One] cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forebear because it will be better for [one] to do so, because it will make [one] happier, because, in the opinions of others, to do so would be wise or even right” (Mill, 1859). Because the COVID-19 vaccination requirement serves neither to prevent transmission of COVID-19 to other individuals – having received the COVID-19 vaccine or not – nor mute harmful symptoms incurred upon one who contracts COVID-19 - having received the COVID-19 vaccine or not - the COVID-19 vaccination requirement interferes with my liberty of action to exercise my religion, which is thereupon violated in consideration of the doctrinal principles in which I place my spiritual trust and confidence. The COVID-19 vaccination requirement is substantially burdensome on the territory of theological liberty.
    My objection is limited to particular vaccines because enforcement of policies that require vaccination is variable in-nature. In conformity with the doctrinal principles laid forth in my religion of choice, I am justified in objecting, in particular fashion, to the COVID-19 vaccination requirement and suffer no obligation to hold uniform beliefs with regard to each type of vaccine.
    To conclude, I am willing to work with, for, and in selfless servitude to the Federal Government of The United States of America, always doing so at the highest standards of performance; the highest standards of operational security; the highest standards of professionalism; the highest standards of accountability. I offer to the Federal Government of The United States of America my unwavering patriotism and youthful years of life. Nonetheless, should my eligibility of employment as a [...] be conditioned on my forfeiture of sincerely held religious beliefs, it will not go unaccompanied by my seeking of legal counsel to redress violation of rights granted unto me under the United States Constitution as defined within the Bill of Rights.
    Thank you, [Name],
    Sergeant of [Military Personnel],
    [Current Position]

    What say you, anons? Yay or nay? Can Mill's Liberalism be my religion and Freedom my god? Can ideology become theology?
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "I just emailed my religious vaccination exemption request to the U.S Department of State. Thoughts?"

    do you work for the U.S Department of State?

    I think you just have to send it to your employer, then they can offer you unpaid leave or weekly testing, their choice

    or they can give up their government contracts, I suppose
     
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    jhil2020 Well-Known Member

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    Even Federal contractors are governed by the policies set forth by the Safer Federal Workforce Task Force under the current Adminsistration, so it all has to go through the Feds.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    anyone that works with government contract... yes
     
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    It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about what you think is right for your life. As long as you are not hurting anybody, you have the right to make whatever decisions you want to make with the understanding that with those inalienable rights, comes responsibility.

    Sounds like you've got all that covered!
     
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    I just had a thought today for the first time. There's no way of ever knowing but I wonder how many non-vaxxers have ink on their bodies and I wonder if they ever bothered to find out what the ingredients of ink are.
     
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    before I go in for any surgery I make the anesthesiologist give me a list of all probably drugs they intent to use so I can approve/dis[rove them.

    https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-...ogics/common-ingredients-us-licensed-vaccines

    health food!
     
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    Bravo! Even though I have been vaccinated, I applaud your stance.

    And really, that the gov gives special treatment for anything because of religious beliefs is contrary to freedom. An objection on any grounds is just as valid as an objection on religious grounds. Equal treatment for all.
     
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    Thoughts? What happens when a virus as deadly as Ebola starts making the rounds ... you going to be OK with people claiming "freedoms" to infect thousands
    of people with a deadly virus?
     
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    You seem to be changing the subject.

    Sounds like a slippery slope. Of course there could be more extreme situations that could justify taking away more freedoms, but this isn't one of them.
    Arguments of extremes can go both ways.
     
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    or that the bible is against inking ones body, yet so many Christians do it

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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I notice that many of the usual members here can't seem to stay on topic, and seem to be trying to derail threads on the first page.
     
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    No one has shown me any concrete boundaries to this 'religious exemption' which works as a back door loop hole to otherwise constitutionally passed statutes. Unless proponents of religious exemption status, can come up with some solid boundaries, I will oppose most religious exemptions that do not directly infringe on the exercise of religion.

    All we are doing when we expand it outside of prayer, houses of worship and theological study etc, is create a moon sized loophole in the legislative authority of Congress, every state legislature and city council that the non religious have no access to. And that raises equal protection issues.
     
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    Read the last word in the title of this thread
     
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    You could just convert to some religion. Then you would have the same protections. It’s an interesting conundrum. Maybe we should just let people make their own decisions no matter who they are. Make it simple.
     
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    Do you take any other prescription medications?
     
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    There are numerous regulations that you must follow, because not following them does risk the health of others.

    This IS one of those cases.

    You ARE attacking an enormous body of law related not even just to medicine.
     
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    We went through that with the draft and religious exemptions.

    The idea of quickly becoming a "conscientious objector" against various legal requirements isn't some new fangled idea you just thought up.
     
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    As to the OP, distilling it down, the reason is that "you're making this a mandatory vaccination (with exceptions). My religious objection is that it's mandatory."


    There's no "exception" that swallows the entire rule. This objection is absurd.
     
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    Wait. Back up. Who/what did I attack and how?
     
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    Our government has a role in reducing the negative impact of individual behavior on other individuals.

    I think you want there to be a "religious" exemption from that.

    And, let's face it. Our government has NO POSSIBILITY of judging what is a religion and what is NOT a religion. So, suggesting that this is tied to religion really is a contrivance.
     
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    It’s not meant to be a newfangled idea. You entirely missed the point we ought to let people make their own decisions based on principles, not on some fake religious affiliation or any other special designation.
     
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    OK. There is also personal responsibility to do the same.
    When did I say that? I don't care if people use religious exemption or not. I'm not inclined to care about whatever decisions other people make (except the ones I made) as long as they aren't hurting anybody.
    That's very confusing. The government has "no possibility" of judging what is a religion and what is not but they allow religious exemption?

    It's been a long day for me. I need some more clarification on that point, please.
     
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    You are just making a stronger claim that our government has NO business in reducing the negative impact of personal behavior that people may choose.

    Again, that is a GIGANTIC body of law and regulation that you want terminated. And, basing that decision on COVID vaccination that is so monumentally proven to be safe and effective is just plain not acceptable.
     

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