I Shall Not Appease Motorists!!!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by ErikBEggs, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    I never said they are not allowed on the road. I said that they are required to use special bike lanes in areas where they can not keep up with traffic. Greenwood requires that you keep up with traffic, for example. It's illegal to drive too slow and to hold up traffic. You were correct that there technically is no minimum speed limit, but there most places have laws against driving too slow compared to traffic. Madisan avenue, for example, has a speed limit of 40. Most traffic goes anywhere between 40 and 50. Bikes can not go that fast. So, if they go on the main lanes while there is traffic, they will stall it.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Posted speeds, if I'm correct, are a limit and not a target.
     
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    Are you sure bicycles are motor vehicles? Seldom do they have motors.
     
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    Another brilliant example of the idiocy of liberals. In this case I am rooting for Darwin.
     
  5. JavisBeason

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    I like to honk as I pass cyclists while texting their facial expressions I snap with my phone.


    I truly believe that everyone I pass prays to God. It's my form of missionary work....

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    or turn signals.... or insurance.... or registrations
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Exactly; it's a limit, not a target.
     
  7. JavisBeason

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    you sure ahve a lot of opinions on rules of the road for someone that doesn't actually drive....
     
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    He has lots of opinions on many activities he's never indulged in. :)
     
  9. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Last year the idiot gamblers in Blackhawk Colo tried to ban bikes from the only thru street in their town. They lost in the Colo Supreme Court.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yes I have. I use roads every day and I'm perfectly aware of the rules of the road, and I also witness idiotic drivers every day. I'm not an author either, but would you have a problem if I posted a book review? See, you don't need to have practial experience in something in order to have knowledge of it. I mean, look at all the political 'experts' here. I wonder how many of them are politicians. Seems they all have their opinions-and a lot of them. That would include you.
     
  11. ErikBEggs

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    There is no law where one is required to pull over for a platoon of traffic. That would indicate buses are ticketable.

    Please show me this law. I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    No... why would I do that? I know my rights but I'm no idiot. It is actually illegal to ride at night in most cities without a functioning headlight and taillight.

    Rain is fine, it is the wind that is more important. If the wind is greater than 20 mph I drive. Yes, I do own a vehicle.

    Bicycles are self-propelled motors. Fortunately, the distinction was made on the books to lift the registration requirements for public roads. In every vehicle traffic law for every state, a bike is entitled to the same rights as other motor vehicles. The only difference is registration.

    No it is not.

    If a Ford F-250 driver killes a cyclist with that macho ego of yours, he will probably have all assets seized in a large settlement to the cyclists' family.

    No Indiana does not have any such law on the books. Why are you making up laws that don't exist?
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I ride on roads going 50 miles an hour all the time. It's not a problem. Most see me well in advance. And the particular stretch of road you're talking about does not have any law forbidding bicycles from riding on it.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Are you a politician? No? Ok, so we won't be hearing any of your political opinions in future then, will we?
     
  14. ErikBEggs

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    Not exactly. States can amend their vehicle codes to override municipal laws. This was recently the case with Chicago establishing home rule authority to ticket parked cars for front window tint, despite it being legal in the State of Illinois. Illinois amended the state code to override Chicago.

    That is not illegal.

    It is only illegal on roads which have a posted minimum speed limit, which is almost always limited access highways. The speed limit is a legal upper limit, not a lower limit.

    What is idiotic about cycling to work? Please conceive this "reality" you have constructed for yourself. Let's recap:

    1) No Emissions
    2) Gym Membership on Wheels
    3) Cost Savings on Parking and Fuel

    Please explain in detail the idiocy of each point.

    You can buy turn signals and insurance for your bicycle, actually.
     
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    My only concern is, may I have your bike when this all blows over?
     
  16. ErikBEggs

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    When what blows over?
     
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    I dub thee "Speed Bump".
     
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    but they aren't required like they are for me on the road..... who fixes my hood because you didn't signal and cut in front of me and I hit you?


    I agree with all 3 points about emissions, gym and cost of gas.... but how much is all that worth when you are in the hospital from getting hit and disabled.


    How much is all that worth if you are killed?


    People are idiots on the road and I'm in a steel cage.... you choose to chance it with nothing. I'm more important to my family alive than dead. So my bike riding will be in the afternoons after work with the family, on roads with little traffic in my neighborhood.
     
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    On one of the bike forums im on, a woman driver that hit a killed a teen is suing his family because she is having nightmares and is depressed. Now that takes gall!!!
     
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    I've been seeing that story all over the place on social media. Was it the boy's fault? All I've gathered is that it was 1:30am and dad admitted he shouldn't have been out at that time.


    Was he up to no good and just got hit accidentally, when he was somewhere he shouldn't be? There seems so much to that story that doesn't make the facebook version.
     
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    Frankly it doesn't matter. An accident happened resulting in a death. It's not the family's fault the accident. Not only that but the family lost 2 sons as a result of this. One killed himself out of grief. This woman is an awful woman for putting the family through more duress than she already has.
     
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    They do if they are holding up traffic. I've seen cyclist given tickets because they are going slow slow compared to other traffic that traffic is forced to move as slow as 20 miles per hour in a 40 MPH zone.
     
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    No. You haven't seen that. That doesn't happen because it's not against the law. If it were tractors and construction equipment wouldn't be allowed on the road either. A cyclist cannot impede traffic because it is traffic. And there are no posted minimum speed limits on surface streets.
     
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    LOL, why can't they comprehend this?

    Literally just making up fictitious laws.

    :wall:
     
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    Unnecessary honking??

    When a bike is swaying back and forth, and the rider appears to be in a daze as to what is going on around them, it seems rather relevant to give them a honk so they are aware you are behind them, and when 4 or more cars are backed up because you are lollygagging along, perhaps common courtesy would dictate that the slower moving vehicle would pull over if necessary to allow the other vehicles to pass. We don't want to share a lane with you, we want to get around you and get on with what we are doing.

    It's a two way street with the rage BS. Not exactly sure what a person on a bicycle is going to do against a 2000lb car, but hey knock yourself out. You get the courtesy you give in most cases.
     

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