I think I was date-raped last weekend, what should I do?

Discussion in 'Women's Rights' started by JavisBeason, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    ahhh, so "short end of the stick" issues are not ok for men, but are for women... ok, gotcha
     
  2. Bowerbird

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    Hmmm your stats are higher than i expected http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6104.pdf

    However the correlation with overt sexual behaviour and abuse is well known

    http://aacap.org/page.ww?name=Child+Sexual+Abuse&section=Facts+for+Families

    This is a very good read
    http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/__data/as...amilies-specialist-practice-resource-2012.pdf
     
  3. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    You are welcome Gwenney. I just want you to know that I have no need, or inclination to "jab" anyone. I live an idylic life, beautiful wife who is also my best friend, nice cars and motorbikes, nice boats, beaut little dog, and a cuddly cat, we live in a beautiful setting with nice neighbours and friends, we really know how to enjoy life here. Having no hangups, no bitterness, no need to spew hate at people, no wish to harm or upset anyone, so I have no craving to torture or kill anyone, no obsession with pinning false criminal charges on anyone for a thrill kill, or because I hate their sex.

    I do however have an opinion on crime, particularly rape. I believe that any "man" who commits rape has no place on this earth. Just as anyone who knowingly, falsely accuses anyone of rape has no place on this earth. Rape is a particularly low crime, false accusations of rape, possibly even lower.
     
  5. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy for you and your idylic life. I know you must have an idylic life from how terribly 'cordial' you are on this forum. A real delight. God bless you.
     
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    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Oh, God, I have a fantastic life with an Adonis and a magic cat that can fly and I have a money tree in the backyard and my life is exquisite, lol.

    I find it hilarious when people need to point out how idylic their lives are. That's some funny (*)(*)(*)(*) right there.
     
  7. Gwendoline

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    Rape is horrendously underreported. Many, many, many rapists get off.

    Many, many women never have justice from having been raped.

    Just thought I'd point that out for a bit of perspective.

    "15 out of 16 rapists will never spend a day in jail."

    "Every 2 minutes in the United States someone is sexually assaulted."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YN_GQStLbM&feature=player_embedded
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    I`m happy that you bless my idylic life and resultant lack of spite. It could actually be the other way around? Not being a spitefull person is clearly an advantage in the quest for a happy life. There are those who actually resent others having a happy life. Particularly racist, or sexist people, or other sad, twisted people who see the objects of their hatered leading clean, happy lives. We probably should pity these sad, lonley people, but it`s a bit hard to have empathy for someone so lacking in character, and self worth, that they allow themselves to lower themselves to the point of hateing someone on the basis of their sex, race, or whatever.

    BTW, who is that sad, rejected woman on your avitar? She certainly dosen`t look like one of life`s great success stories, but I do hope she was better off than she looks..
     
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    isn't that why they do it?
     
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    I see what you did there.
     
  11. Gwendoline

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    Look, I think it's pretty obvious we don't like each other. How about calling a truce, shaking hands and moving along? I can live with not liking you. As I'm sure that's fine for you, too.

    So could we please shake hands and move along?
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    I have no problems with anyone, with shaking anyone`s hand. Regarding the topic, rape is such a vile crime, to force an assult of this type on anyone, is unforgivable in my book. To falsely accuse someone of rape, or to be prepared to condemn anyone of this crime without conclusive evidence, is equally low.
     
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    Guys cannot be raped by women. If you say different you're probably a bit fruity. Nothing against fruity people.
     
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    she was drunk and was coerced into having sex with a guy she chose not to have sex with after a prior date. He was friend-zoned and he used her inebriation as a way to get what he wanted.


    I was drunk and was coerced into having sex with a girl I chose NOT to have sex with after a prior date. She was friend-zoned, and she used my inebriation as a way to get what she wanted.



    Equality is equality right, or do you only beleive in equal rights so long as it meets your agenda?
     
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    Both cases are rape. Rape is like pregnancy in one sense, a person ie either pregnant, or not, a person has either been raped, or they haven`t. Accusations of rape though, can come in varying degrees. It`s too easy for a woman to do a man a hugh amount of harm, simply by making accusations, this is in many instances, a power thing, a tool used to cause misery for the sake of spite. Girls, it`s not ok to destroy someone`s life simply because they happen to be males, get with the program. The equality thing, remember? To be honest, we aren`t a civilised society while this type of vile accusation can be made, with impunity.
     
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    it's a catch 22

    if you severely punish false accusers for confessing, future false accusers will not confess, thus future true victims that are falsely accused suffer

    if you let off a false accuser, future true victims suffer as everyone knows they have nothing to lose by making a false accusation

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    a man can get drunk and be date-raped by a women same as the reverse can happen - common sense

    two drunk people having consensual sex in their inebriated state is consensual sex in my book, if either party is sober it's date rape, the sober person should know better

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    Having poor judgement because of intoxication does not equal incapacity. It may be poor sport, but it's not legally wrong. No more than lying to somebody to get sex is legally wrong. It's a matter of if one party is capable of declining for any reason. If you lack the ability to revoke consent, then you lack the ability to consent.
     
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    If a false accusation can get a scalp, the law is wrong. If there were harsh penalties for proven false accusation, there would be a deterrant for false accusation, but genuine victims would have nothing to fear from the law. As it now stands regarding false accusation, the law is effectively saying "ah well, bad luck that you missed out on a thrill kill this time, come back and try another day".
     
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    How is it "rape" if you were making out with him the second your memory went hazy? Maybe you just had so much jack that you blacked out and don't remember it. Do you think he put something in your drink? If not then I'd hardly call that rape.
     
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    Go back a bit, you'll see that your definition of rape does not meet THE definition of rape. If in this scenario, the party had 'blacked out' (meaning lost consciousness), they no longer had the option to decline consent, thus they no longer had the option to incline consent... regardless of how they felt about the act before or after.
     
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    That's assuming the other individual knew they were unconscious, but if you were already in the middle of the act then I see that as unlikely. A better idea would be to not get drunk and make out with a strange guy if you're that paranoid of being raped. Based on the scenario, I think it's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) unlikely that the guy thought of what he was doing as rape or non consensual.
     
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    Narcolepsy is against the law. Enough said.
     
  25. Gwendoline

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    OP is male. He was date-raped by a woman, when in his words, at the time he was 'drunk and horny'. Go figure, I guess.

    I'm yet to hear him speak of being 'violated'. He claims he was 'coerced' to have sex... while 'horny' - as per his words.

    I'm curious... are men generally coerced into having sex when they are 'horny'? As men - would you have to be coerced into having sex when you are 'horny'?

    Genuine question. Genuine curiousity.

    Rape is the antithesis of being 'horny'. Kinda insulting using the word 'horny' in the context of rape.

    I posted examples of date-rape earlier. One was a woman who agreed to have sex with her boyfriend but when he wouldn't put a condom on, she refused to have sex with him, and he forced himself on her, raped her against her telling him no way. Pretty gross. No way she was 'horny' when he refused to put a condom on and she refused and he forced himself on her. I'd say she felt 'violated' and disgusted and sick all over.
     

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