I Will Not Comply

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by 6Gunner, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for conceding, good night.
     
  2. Vegas giants

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    I accept your concession
     
  3. TexMexChef

    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

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    The is no reason the state would go door to door to confiscate a clip. First of all and for the most obvious reason....money.

    No police force has the funding or man-power to do ...door to door confiscations.
     
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    Some people think it's a great idea for police to bother law abiding citizen rather than do their job.

    Oddly these same people fear police brutality
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Oh I've got to say I'm glad to see the spirit than people. Sometimes lawmakers need to be told where the line is.
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Not that I get pulled over often but when I do I mentioned that I have a CHL and the officers ask me if I have a gun and where is it and I tell them where it is. And they often respond good if you didn't have it I would ask you why not.
     
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    True. But remember the gun control people are fanatics and are not concerned about such issues as funding.

    And it wont be blind door-ot-door searches. When the Hartford Currant demanded the Connecticut State Police confiscate firearms from people who did not comply, they argued that the form 4473's from FFLs and financial records and membership data be examined so firearm owners could be identified. The State Police refused, their main concern was LE safety.
     
  8. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ever notice how the anti's claim they are all for saving lives, but lives not taken by firearms mean nothing to them.

    Very telling to what they are truthfully up to.
     
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    Prove it
     
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    Ever notice that your whole debate strategy consists of distorting the arguments of your opponents?
     
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    Just curious. If they are not really wanting to save lives what are they trying to do?
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The total banning of the private ownership of firearms.
     
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    No, I have't noticed. Could you show me any posts where those who advocate for banning guns to help save lives also stated that they don't care about lives taken by other means? Thank you in advance.
     
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    Will parts of New Jersey become like Chicago where armed criminals rule the streets and have high gun related crime rates and deaths? That will become interesting to see how New Jersey evolves.
     
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    That is like saying pro gunners want to arm preschoolers
     
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    No, we don't to, but the anti-s sure as heck want to do so.

     
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    So much for the law having an effect on crime, eh?
     
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    how many commonly owned guns use clips? How many people would know one if they saw one?
     
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    I do! I do! I do!

    Clips.jpg
     
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    That does not mean the clip is not illegal and the person having and using the clip are in violation of the law. ..and in any circumstance where law enforcement has access to owe's firearms, then on would be held in account.

    Sencondly, and more importantly...law biding citizens would comply with the law an turn over or destroy the clip. /the clip would fade away from attrition.
     
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    What will the criminals do?
     
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    You clearly have no clue as to what a clip is.
     
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    Arguing over semantics is just a simple distraction, and you know it.
     
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    "Attrition".

    "For example, testing found that even in 20,400 rounds of M855A1— a tricky ammo type— still there were zero stoppages."

    https://www.foxnews.com/tech/marines-get-groundbreaking-unstoppable-new-rifle-magazine

    "Absolute reliability can be tested according to relatively established protocols and fixture firing. Testing rough handling, drop, and impact characteristics from full weapon or magazine drops or abuse, when considering the true purpose of such testing, has to include firing and not merely visual inspection. Although incredibly resistant to damage, due to the aforementioned resilience quality, the PMAG GEN M3 is designed and manufactured to function correctly even if damage occurs. Part of our internal testing protocol is to damage magazines through extreme rough handling and fixtures designed for the purpose, and then evaluate function. If a PMAG retains rounds, and even if it is deliberately split enough to not retain rounds, but is forcibly held together long enough to be loaded and inserted into the mag well, it will feed.

    We routinely endurance test individual PMAGs to 200 times loaded capacity. So, an individual 30 round 5.56 magazine must survive 6,000 rounds in a single rifle with no cleaning but routine lubrication. Magazines are completely serviceable after this testing. Additional testing protocols test two magazines to 3600 rounds each with numerous magazine swaps and field firing orientations for usability, catch durability, and “magazine monopod” performance evaluations.

    We have Thermotrons for cold-soaking to -60F and heating to +180F for drop and function testing. We fixture and trigger release our drops onto polished concrete for repeatable impacts to evaluate all axes of drop testing, dropping the same magazine up to 16 times to test durability at room temperature and at extremes. We do multi-axis full weapon drops at room temperature, -60F, and +180F. We do function testing on these magazines after the drops."

    https://primaryandsecondary.com/magpul-pmag-gen-m3/

    Maybe I should buy two, just in case.
     
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    Firearms and magazines do not attrit at any meaningful rate.
     
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