ICE is targeting 'sanctuary cities' with raids

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  1. Lordfly

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    America does not have open borders where you get to just come on in because you want to. That is not America.
     
  2. Balto

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    Maybe those blue collar American workers need to find a different outlet. I think we're facing the reality manufacturing is becoming a thing of the past, and not a thing of the future. Plus, these immigrants will work for little money, and they can contribute to the well-being of America through again, agriculture or construction. It's a win-win situation. Nobody wants to be a plumber, or roofer at this day in age.
     
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    Maybe that law needs to be revised, I am not advocating for open borders. I am advocating for law and human rights combined. And human rights goes beyond walls.
     
  4. Rosa Parks

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    Until the law is changed, what you advocate is not a consideration. I advocate work camps where illegal aliens work for free.
     
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    There is no "right" to ignore immigration laws and borders. None!
     
  6. Balto

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    That's simply in other words, advocating for slavery. And dismal conditions these people are escaping from in the first place.
    You want to solve illegal immigration. Border guards, concrete walls, that medieval-style protection won't cut it. You have to:
    1. Revise immigration law
    2. Simplify, and reduce the time consumption by over half from applying for to receiving citizenship.
    3. Defund ICE, basically call lights out on the agency. This move will put immigrants at ease, not so they can commit crime, but so they don't fear what will happen when they come out of the shadows.
     
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    That's why you need to revise them so both the rule of law and human rights intertwine.
     
  8. Rosa Parks

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    Yes, my advocating for slavery affects the law about as much as your advocating for something else.
     
  9. Balto

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    The law, as it stands, has no regard for human rights, which is universal. The sooner the rule of law and human rights come together, the sooner we can sensibly approach illegal immigration. The way we are now is like watching paint dry.
     
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    I advocate confiscating illegal alien's property and giving it to homeless Americans. Where is your compassion.
     
  11. Lordfly

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    Bullshit. It's not their human right to come here just because they want to. Not even close. It's a privilege.
     
  12. Steve N

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    So a hungry and cold illegal can break into your house, eat your food and sleep in your bed and you won't enforce the rule of law by calling the cops?
     
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    Why don't we just fine the companies that hire them? We round up the illegals working there and we collect money to deport them.
    Why have we never gone after the law breaking businesses?
     
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    You do realize that it's legal for illegal aliens to buy real estate in the the US?

    * CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION - CONS

    ARTICLE I DECLARATION OF RIGHTS [SECTION 1 - SEC. 32] ( Article 1 adopted 1879. )

    SEC. 20.
    Noncitizens have the same property rights as citizens.
    (Sec. 20 added Nov. 5, 1974, by Prop. 7. Res.Ch. 90, 1974.)
    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/...ml?lawCode=CONS&sectionNum=SEC. 20.&article=I
     
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    Why in the hell would we do that?? Migrating here is not a right granted to just anybody, it is a privilege that needs to be tightly contained in order to protect existing citizens.
     
  16. Steve N

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    Forgive him as his heart bleeds for people he sees as running away from a crap hole rather than trying to fix that crap hole so future generations will have a better life. At the same time, I doubt he would scoot down to Mexico and actually help those his heart bleeds for, because like most liberals, he feels good just telling us that we have to absorb the cost and pain while he comfortably lives far away from the mess and isn't impacted. I wonder how he would feel if a bunch of illegals moved next door to him, had **** fights on their front lawn while slitting the throats of goats in preparation for tonight's dinner. Even worse, how would he feel about Mexican's inherent hatred for black people?
     
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    Ever looked up Indentured servitude, you may not be familiar with it, but what you have suggested is just another form of Slavery!

     
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    If you don't like it you can stay where you are. Correct?
     
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    Good that is their job.
     
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    Awesome! Get 'em out of this country!
     
  21. Professor Peabody

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    Racism? I call it "walletism". They are just taxing me to death, my wallet is dying slowly.
     
  22. Rosa Parks

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    Foreigners can buy real estate but cannot live on it as illegal aliens. Their very presence is illegal. Confiscate their property and give it to the homeless out of compassion. Put them in work camps to work off their debt to the American people.
     
  23. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It sounds like you approve of slave labor, do you?

    The cost to the many isn't worth the benefit to the contractors that do NOT pass the labor cost saving on to the consumer, they just line their pockets all the way to the bank while paying the illegals coolie labor wages. They should be in a jail cell.
     
  24. PrincipleInvestment

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    Free housing? Likely the only way libs will get on board with immigration enforcement. Though I can't as a conservative support gov't confiscation of anything.
     
  25. Rosa Parks

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    Maybe we can work towards a compromise like simple deportation. ;)
     

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