If a person is bisexual why would they choose to identify as gay?

I never understood your need to treat people as "lesser thans". Please tell me or enlighten me to your motivation.

 

I don't know about the others, but I don't really care if you understand why we referred to our orientation in our posts. When there is someone, who I feel might be interested in learning something, I am more than will to answer such questions.

 

Of course you aren't. The way I see it, some people are willing to step out of themselves, to learn and understand things better.

 

You mean like going down the rabbit hole? There is nothing to understand about homosexuality. It is nothing more than a chosen perversion of our human species biological sexuality. It does not matter how much you attempt to redefine human sexuality, we are a male/female species, period.

 

Just because you see things in terms of only male/female does not make it so. Many biologists and psychologists would tell you otherwise.

 

Kind of how atheists feel when Christians tell them they need to "read", "study" and "learn" the Bible until the atheist's opinion is aligned with their's?

 

That's untrue. There is plenty to learn and understand about human sexuality in general.

 

I respect that. I don't remember asking anyway.

 

I wouldn't know... or care.

And there's no such word as "their's".

 

Correct.
Which I do for things that interest me.
The "social dynamics" of homosexuality, as you put it, just isn't one of those things.

Had nothing to do with my comments, and I have zero desire to "study" it.

 

Yes.

I know many people of 'depth', who make efforts to look beyond themselves and even take interest in things that help them to understand others better; I am thankful for all such people; they surely make the world a better place to live for all.

As I said before, I do hoe that you (somehow and for some reason) garner better knowledge and understanding than you've exhibited here. Still, far be it from me to try compelling you to do so; this world has many types of people in it.

I'm not always 'answering' you or others according to what you might expect. This forum represents an international audience, with people of many ages from diverse backgrounds. Sometimes, I'm speaking or expressing myself as I sense the need to do. I always hope that people at least have something of added perspective, after I've shared my thoughts or opinions.

 

Sure it is something to be proud of, they are standing up for who they are. No longer having to hide it, like some still think they need to.
It's a choice to let family and friend know, fearing complete rejection.
If it puts you off so much, maybe one should not troll the gay/lesbian thread.

 

Like hermaphrodites are a choice?
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Some are so lost they deny hermaphrodites exist.
Some even think eating disorders are a choice.

 

Orientation is not a choice. Your 'lifestyle' often is. I cannot help my orientation, but I choose to be a virgin, monogamous or promiscuous. I also choose to marry or stay single, to live a 'messy' lifestyle or live an organized, clean lifestyle. I may choose to have kids or not, to live an urban or rural lifestyle.

I take your point that one ought not take pride in being anything. You should only be proud of decisions you made, or hard work you did, or good character you show. I think we have done a bad job at explaining what 'gay pride' is actually celebrating. We are not really proud of being gay. We are proud of how we are handling the inherent adversity that comes with being open and gay in a culture that systematically belittled, demeaned and marginalized gay people as a minority. We are taking pride in how we have risen from the shame, the social stigma and the discrimination that follows us, and turned all that into strength, rather than defeat . Its really about patting each other on the back for standing up for ourselves, and growing empowered rather than hiding and being silent.

 

Very true. That is what I get for having a public education and not proofreading, though that was a nice deflection.

 

No deflection at all. I answered your question.
Why do people always claim deflection when they don't like what they read?

 

I'm not claiming it is. I don't know, so I can't say.
Well... if I know it will rile certain people I don't hesitate.
But, I typically go with "born that way", since in the scheme of things, it really doesn't matter if it is or isn't.

As for that, I'm not saying one ought not.... I'm saying I feel it's a silly thing to take pride in.
I am a bunch of things... I really take no pride in any of it because most of it I was born into. I had no choice. The things I do choose/accomplish/succeed in... while I may take a little pride in, I feel no need to constantly announce on forums. I was just pointing out how in this very short thread, so many have made a point of doing this. Happens all the time. Then someone chimed in with the "being proud" nonsense.

You didn't. Grandma did.

 

He hasn't changed his sex, just his hair, panties and nails.

You really don't know this ?!


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All points expressed excellently!! (I think I'll keep that post as a model of the way to say things later on.)

Thank you!!

 

You should.

BT seems reasonable, able to speak clearly, and doesn't seem to react with drama and anger.

 

https://carm.org/hermaphrodites

 

In the Jenner case, not a completed transition yet.
But my question still stands in general, what do you call someone who has completed the transformation to female?

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So does that mean you know they exist?
You believe they exist?
And if yes to either, is it a choice?
Are they born that way?

And then those that are still somewhat an offshoot where physically they may have sex organs of on sex, but the genetic makeup of the other sex.
Traditionally called transfengenders.
Are you coming to the conclusion, humans, and other animals, are not exclusively male/female in 100% of the population? But various mixes of in between.

 

That we are a male/female species. You are also attempting to lump homosexuals in with hermaphrodites that have a proven genetic disorder that they should sort out.