If a person is bisexual why would they choose to identify as gay?

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    As you say, most. Not 100%. Never has been 100%. So you just have to deal with it.
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Truth is the mother of all hatred.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Anti-intellectual crap like yours is not "truth".
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pedophilia, incest, adultery and murder have been around forever also, but we do not recognize them as normal natural behaviors either.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Anti-intellectual crap? Sounds like I struck a chord.

    Who decided theology was an intellectual endeavor?
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well, from the biblical perspective, the first murder was committed by Cain. And many murders have occurred since then. It is normal and natural among all species. Pedophilia is not even illegal in all countries now and has been a regular practice among humans for millennia.adultery is quite common even in our culture to the point it's encouraged (remember how Christ defined adultery). I don't really have any facts on incest so I can make no comments about it.

    So it seems you are either confusing morality with normality, nature, or you are utterly blind to the nature of man.

    You don't even understand the basics of your religion. It is our nature to sin, thus sin is natural and absolutely normal.

    So you are making a logical fallacy over and over again. You are appealing to nature. The nature of man is to sin. You are also speaking to majority when you mention something is normal. All people commit adultery as Christ defined it. So it's normal to be adulterous.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand that we have had sin/perversions since the beginning and that man is prone to it. My argument is that deviations from our natural state should not be recognized as equal to it. I'm not bothered by knowing that homosexuals exist. I do business with them and would have a beer with them. But, I believe it is important to recognize our perversions and sins as that and not recognize them as normal, natural or healthy behaviors.
     
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    if a person is bisexual, then they would choose to identify as bisexual, not straight or gay.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    You misunderstand completely. Deviation it's our natural state. Sin it's our nature. We must fight our nature.
    You missed the entire point of my post. Sin Is natural and normal. We even call it healthy when it fits.

    To live free of sin is completely unnatural to the human state. That is why the only man that ever did it was a supernatural being.

    Here it's an interesting link that explains sin nature.http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-the-sinful-nature-a-bible-study/
     
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    It is almost like you are promoting chaos. Wether we are tempted by satan or have unnatural urges, neither excuses us from choosing proper behaviors. Since we are male/female, then our sex should be male/female. While it is easier to cheat and steal, we should do what is right.

    Do you believe the human body was designed to have penises in anuses? You cannot honestly say yes. Do you believe our bodies were designed to have penises in vaginas and secrete a fluid that leads to procreation? Clearly this is so. Some humans have found they can get sexual pleasure from animals, does not mean we call it normal or natural? Homosexuality is just another deviation.
     
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    The issue that those wishing to deny same sex marriage (now simply known as marriage) is that they have never been able to argue logically why should the state deny two consenting adults from signing a legal document. Marriage today primarily grants tax and property benefits and to continue the practice of denying same sex couples that ability needed to be baised on some foundation.

    Procreation or the ability of is not a requirement, neither is intercourse - private religious laws cannot be used - so the issue was correctly settled by the Supreme Court.

    As for the rest of your fallacy:
    Not all homosexual men have anal sex and no lesbians practice the act - but that is your stereotype.
    Homosexuals marrying will not effect heterosexuals procreating.
    Beastiality lacks consent and is considered abuse.

    Homosexuality is natural but I will agree that it is not normal (the same statement applies to left handed people and redheads.)

    Your arguments boil down to "gay people are icky" - good luck on getting that beyond anyone who doesn't already agree with you. Come back when your argument surpasses that of a 5 year old.
     
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    We are naturally prone to sin. That isn't promotion of chaos or excuses. It's a simple fact.

    Still not talking about a third sex. I don't get why you keep bringing sex up.
    Against our nature, correct.

    I don't think the human body was designed at all.
    You seem preoccupied with genitals. Relationships are so much more than crotches.

    Prove it.
     
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    The fact that you don't know is revealing. Of course it's not an intellectual endeavor to someone who knows nothing about it.
     
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    One could say that about anything.
     
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    Sure they are natural and normal.
    Just illegal in the pedo and incest at this time.
    Murder is infringing on someone else, not only rights but life.
    Being gay isn't infringing on any one elses rights.
     
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    It would be unhealthy to not act normal and natural for each individual.
    Repressing one's true being is very unhealthy.
     
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    Did I sufficiently answer your question?
     
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    Facts dont require your belief in them
     
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    Your interpretation of facts, does not necessarily reflect truth/reality.
     
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    If you believe in the Bell Curve a lot more people are bisexual than you might think. It is my experience that most women are bisexual. There is a stigma that goes along with it that people are not yet ready for. Maybe in the future our social situation will have degraded enough that bisexuality will be the norm.
     
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    What does the Bible say? What does the law in most states say? Sodomy-anal or oral unnatural copulation. Random House If you think not all gays have sex and just masturbate you are as crazy as me. Heteros also practice sodomy. Were all going to Hell I tell you!
     
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    I'd say it's an upgrade not a degrade. People not being coerced into pretending to be someone they aren't is a good thing. Think about when freedom of religion was declared law. Jews, christians, atheists, Hindus and so forth all got to be who they were. When the taboos died off it didn't matter.
     
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    are you suggesting that pedophilia should be legalized?
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I didn't make any suggestions.
     
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    I am not.
     

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