If Biden Wins ...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Thunderbolt, Aug 12, 2020.

  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not the only one, I mean outside the fact that those are his promises. A win all but mandates a leftward move to open-immigration, steps toward Green New Deal implementation, and government-run healthcare. All these things were too scary for moderate Democrats just a few months ago. That's why "moderate" Biden won over radicals like Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and Pete Buttigieg. They were too much "in your face" with the left-wing agenda and that scared voters.

    Slow and easy movement of the party towards the left, so the shift isn't "alarming", but paves the way for the far-left wing to succeed in the future.

     
  2. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    You're posting a long list of speculatory assertions that you claim are "facts". I'm no fan of Biden but I know what to expect if Trump is re-elected because we have an irrefutable factual history of what he's already done. A whole lot of people are dead and infected because of Trump's actions and inactions. So common sense dictates that a whole lot more people are going to be infected and die if he's re-elected. And that's just one thing that's easily predictable. So like I said, I'm no Biden supporter but I'll take my chances with Biden or a rock as opposed to re-electing this out of control deadly psychopath.
     
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  3. quiller

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    You appear to curate exhausted memes and re-use them to a point of ridicule, so it may interest you to know that 2020 marks the 80th anniversary of the first time someone was called worse than Hitler.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly why the Obamas paid $14 million for a sea-level waterfront estate in Martha's Vineyard.
    Just like a Democrat to overpay for a suicide pact, all those rising waterlines gonna drown 'em any time now.
     
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  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a reason for that.

    "But things have gotten even worse in the few years short years since the Trump era began. Once a far-fringe conspiracy theory relegated to 8chan and neo-nazi filled knockoffs of Reddit, the QAnon conspiracy theory (which, among other things, posits that a wide swath of prominent Democrats, celebrities and assorted rich people are engaged in pedophilia and adrenochrome harvesting of children, and that the Trump Administration is always just a few weeks away from conducting mass arrests and summary executions–but only once QANON followers have awakened enough of the “normie” public) has become so pervasive that not only do “Q” signs pop up at almost every major conservative rally or protest, but a true believer is now the GOP nominee for Senate in Oregon. When her campaign attempted to backtrack, she doubled down, saying “”My campaign is gonna kill me…How do I say this? Some people think that I follow Q like I follow Jesus. Q is the information and I stand with the information resource.” This conspiracy theory is destroying families, relationships, and the mental health of its adherents. A healthy and normal political party would inoculate itself from it and debunk it quickly. But the GOP is not a healthy or normal political party."

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/...ut-the-gops-evolution-into-a-conspiracy-cult/
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    That's how DEM's work, anyway...
     
  8. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Infighting (particularly among Democrats) gets savage and momentum slows for any particular policy proposal. Too many are too busy jockeying for position to get much done. But overall, yes, I agree a political hegemony is counterproductive to good government. Gridlock is good. If we must spend money on these clowns at least make them helpless to render permanent harm.
     
  9. ChiCowboy

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    Biden doesn't support open borders nor MFA. He does support renewable energy, which is the future. Trump's "kind" of energy is being replaced. That's just the reality.
     
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    QAnon scares Donks half to death. Good. The party of the donkey needs a good boogeyman. That evil unseen enemy they can yowl and moan over, as the leftist howlers undermine America at every turn.
     
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    HIS probably will, as soon as Harris chooses her vice president.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

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    The purchase price, recorded at 3:31 p.m. Wednesday with the Dukes County Registry of Deeds, is listed at $11.75 million.

    The home features seven bedrooms, eight and a half baths and several stone fireplaces. There is a two-car garage, a detached barn and a pool. The property has been on the market since 2015, when it was listed for $22.5 million. The price was dropped twice this summer, first to $16.25 million in June, then to $14.85 million in July.

    The sprawling 6,892-square-foot house sits on 29.3 secluded acres fronting the Edgartown Great Pond between Slough Cove and Turkeyland Cove, with views of a barrier beach and the ocean beyond.
    https://vineyardgazette.com/news/2019/12/04/president-obama-buys-home-edgartown-great-pond

    Do you ever get your facts straight?
     
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    But again...unless he's got a majority in the house and 60% majority in the senate he ain't implementing Green New Deal or govt run healthcare
     
  14. gfm7175

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    ... from the etymological origins of the word...

    I'm claiming that the people listed do not aim to defend/preserve the Constitution. They don't fit the definition. A typewriter is not a computer.

    Those Republicans are not conservatives.

    The part of the human body inbetween the legs and the waist. It is useful when one wishes to sit down somewhere.

    No it's not. I've already briefly explained this fallacy to you. You are simply not well versed in logic.

    I'm not making an appeal to purity... I am not claiming that George Bush is not a REAL conservative (in an attempt to dismiss one's valid example of a conservative)... I'm claiming that George Bush is not a conservative AT ALL, by definition.

    You continue to misrepresent the argument at hand and continue to fail at understanding what the no true scotsman fallacy is...

    Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one denying logic, as I have explained above. YOU are the one not supporting your claims.
     
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    This is complete and utter nonsense. Of course once he secured the nomination, Biden will be praising AOC; he doesn't want to lose the votes of the extreme left wing of the party (especially now that he picked a veep who is disliked by the ultra-progressive) because he will need all factions to beat Trump. But you seem to ignore that Biden just delivered a thorough spanking of the left wing, by defeating Sanders by 10 million popular votes, 3 times more than Hillary did in 2016. Now magically the same people the DNC, Biden, and the other moderate candidates organized themselves to beat, magically will become the dominant force... yeah, right. Any tokens being thrown at them are nothing more than electoral posturing. The strong action of the DNC against both attempts by Bernie Sanders to win the nomination show that the party's establishment does NOT want to give power to the far leftists. Sure, "the Squad" members are strident... and they are FOUR women who are house representatives. Do you know the size of the House Democratic caucus? "The Squad" is a small proportion of it, and they won't be able to approve any of their initiatives, by design from the party's establishment.

    Now, of course it fits the Trump narrative to depict Biden as senile and a puppet of the left wing. This is completely unwarranted and baseless. Sure, he is old and has some cognitive issues (Trump does, too; see below) but not to the degree the Trump campaign wants to depict, and his very pick of veep, a moderate law-and-order former prosecutor when far-leftist Elizabeth Warren was available, confirms once more that Biden is NOT interested in ceding power to the left wing. I guess you guys are now very disappointed because you'd have preferred to see him pick left-wing darling Elizabeth Warren so you'd be able to scream "Biden is a socialist" when he is anything but (not to forget, you'd be able to scream "Pocahontas" too). Too bad for you, he picked someone that doesn't fit your narrative, but predictably, you keep the narrative anyway.

    As for the senile part, let's watch this video clip, shall we?

     
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    why would Republicans be so evil if Biden wins?

    the left will just remind them, you lost, get over it
     
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    Oh that's just the very beginning of what "he" (Kamala Harris and the DNC) plans...
     
  18. LoneStarGal

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    He doesn't, but Kamala does. Biden could have another stoke any day and he's out, then Kamala is running the show. Democrat voters soundly rejected her in the primaries because of her authoritarian tendencies and her "too far left" platform, which scared Democrat voters away. Now that she's Biden's pick, all that voter sentiment went away?

    Anyway, the point of the video I posted, is that Biden doesn't fully support open borders or MFA, but he will move toward those far left goals without "scaring people", then in the near future, the Far Left is a few steps closer to their goals. Liken it to a frog sitting in tepid water, then very slowly turning up the heat until the frog quietly boils to death without realizing he was ever in trouble.
     
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    Biden will spend the next for year dealing with the economic fallout from the Trump administrations - Trump has put us 30 trillion in debt, and still the depression and crash is yet to come, dirty Donald is one of the worst Presidents ever
     
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    and Pence supports a theocracy, mandatory vaginal probes, ect...
     
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    Right...because the president can just push through whatever legislation he wants. I forgot that's how it works...:roll:
     
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    Silly season just keeps getting sillier. It always last's longer than the previous season, too.

    Anyone remember Banana Splits?

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    We're talking about people who don't give a schiff about Constitutional restraints... they wish to DO AWAY WITH the damn thing... it gets in the way of their Communist Marxist Oligarchical "utopia"...
     
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    She looks like a mom. She talks like a mom. A mom with kids in college. Lives in the suburbs. Beautiful bi-racial family. (Sorry, I'm not gonna write multi-racial family. You know what I mean.) Good luck convincing people she's this big bad authoritarian.

    In case nobody has noticed, the natural flow of labor has continued unabetted for over 40 years. Someday, we're gonna have to accept this fact of life. Surely, both sides yelling past each other while turning a blind eye doesn't accomplish anything. Biden supports the 2013 bipartisan immigration bill. That would be a good start.

    I'll wait to see how the public option works, which is Biden's plan. Biden respects those of us who like our employer plans, so I'll keep mine while the govt attempts reform. If they nail it, I'll sign up. If not, I'll keep my plan. When and if public opinion supports MFA will be when it is implemented.
     
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    Expect hysteria from Trump worshippers at the harrowing prospect of a return to normalcy.
     
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