If Biden Wins ...

Yeah, right. If Biden wins, what does that say about Trump? Should he be 25thed?

 

Well, this guy has been president for 3 years and 8 months and hasn't been 25th'ed.

What is this death rate you are calculating? You know, you can't plot it to the whole population, if that's what you're doing; it makes no sense to call it a "death rate" if you include people who have NEVER been infected. What's some part of the population's "death rate" from a disease if they have never had the disease? Zero. So, you can't extrapolate this to the whole population.

There are only two possible rates: Infection-Fatality Rate which is still unknown because we don't know what's the total size of the infected population (it's been ESTIMATED by the CDC at 0.65% although I believe it's probably a bit higher than that), and Case-Fatality Rate which is the percentage of deaths among confirmed cases. The US IFR = unknown, like I said (obviously lower than the CFR, once it gets to be known). The US CFR = 3.1462%, currently. So I have no idea where you got this "US Death Rate" of 0.0318%. Unless you don't know how to calculate percentages. That could be it, given that a lot of people don't (I've seen it here over and over). Seems like you are forgetting to multiply your numbers by 100.

Here, let me help you, if that's what it is (I'll use the latest Worldometer numbers, as of right now; Johns Hopkins numbers are slightly lower).

Here is how percentages are calculated:

170,275 deaths are in proportion to 5,412,018 confirmed cases, like x is in proportion to 100.
Therefore, 170,275/x = 5,412,018/100
Therefore x = 170,275 x 100 divided by 5,312,108, or 17,027,500 divided by 5,312,108
Therefore x = 3.1462
"Per cent" means per one hundred (or in proportion to 100), so, the rate is 3.1462%.

A little more than 3.14%, that is, a little more than 3 out of every 100 people with confirmed cases in the US have died, so far.
NOT 0.0318%.
Gee!

Now, if your mistake was NOT out of skipping the x 100 step, then pray tell, what exactly is this 0.0318% "US Death Rate" you are getting at, and how did you get it?

 

Yes because the rest will reform into QAnon party. Might as well just call ya them locos anyways. Followers are already infiltrating the Senate and trump quotes their conspiracy theories. Bunch of terrorists to the nation.

 

And according to 15 other woman so is trump with his itty bitty 1 incher that he tries to force into woman.

 

This is an interesting question. Notice that Brazil has similar issues.

For a lockdown to be effective - as demonstrated by 90% of the nations - you have to lock down hard. Once the curve flattens you can open up again.

US and Brazil failed to get the "Lock Down Hard" part. A lockdown doesn't work if only half the people participate.

Brazil is the US of South America - and nearly as arrogant and obstinate.

 

There are idiots in all political positions.

We (generic) are responsible for the congressweasels being elected, which is part of the reason I don't understand why some of them continue to get re-elected. Are people too lazy to actually read up on their Reps? Personally, removed the imbedded lifetime perks, limit the income potential, and Amend for term limits. We might actually get reps who are there to help the country, not enrich themselves.

'You third graders'? *massive eye roll*

 

Hey, they can give it a try, they've tried just about everything else.

The thing is, IMO, it will come from within his own party.

 

Infected/died. Rather simple.

 

That's an easy question to answer. ( I wholeheartedly disagree, but it's the truth.)

Generic quote: "While I agree that Congress is terrible and needs to be fixed, it's not my three guys - it's the other 532 that are the problem."

This is why they have single digit approval ratings, but a 90%+ re-election rate.

Sad.

My policy? Vote for a toothbrush over the incumbent. Any non-incumbent name works for me. Every election.

 

...And that talk about rising sea levels --- as if the water would not reach that pond and finally that house?

 

Sea levels are rising. About .125 inches per year at the current rate. Eight inches since the late 1800s.

 

Again, it's not as simple. Infected/died, it's IFR, but you don't know how many were infected, so you simply cannot calculate it (you can estimate it, but it's a guess). You can only know the CONFIRMED CASE/DIED rate (a.k.a. CFR). Then if you by any chance think that it's 0.03 something %, not 3 something percent, it would indicate that you don't seem to know how to calculate percentages.

 

For the sake of this discussion let's accept that figure as the baseline, so that 8" rise was in what, roughly 125 years?.... What I think you're trying to say here is, Obama has nothing to worry about at that rate and his THIRD mansion would be safe. I'll do that part for ya. Save electrons.

True, I do not have topographical maps to show how far above the POND waterline that third Obama mansion actually is. I assume that's why you mention it at all. My point remains he and his husband weren't too worried about it after all that preaching he and the other leftists were doing...until it stopped being global warming. Odd how narratives change when facts don't fit the fabulism.

At what water-level would the rise of sea water actually intrude onto the Pond and ultimately Obama's multi-million-dollar THIRD estate? I don't know. But after all that sniveling it's hysterically funny he thought we wouldn't notice.

 

Didn't see a single fact.

 

The percentage indicator was my error, admitted.
The assumption that 'there are more infections than reported' doesn't support your idea that the US is in worse shape then other countries, quite contrary.

 

According to data compiled by Our World in Data, an average of three people per million die of COVID-19 each day in the U.S.

With a population of about 328 million, that figure puts fatalities at a rate 17 times higher than that of the European Union and Canada.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200729-zd5fuq7drbclth32xzdawsz26i-story.html

And it gets worse every day because we haven't contained it like Europe.

 

One eighth of an inch per year and accelerating.

Obama is irrelevant.

 

Well, there are more infections than reported everywhere. Here, there. So, no, that doesn't invalidate the fact that we are doing worse than many other countries, especially given the much harder, much more accurate number of deaths, including, when you look at excess deaths too, which are now 200,000 in 5 months since the contagion began, here. As compared to the same period in last year we got 200,000 more deaths, so don't even start to give me the idea that deaths are over-counted here (they are under-counted). And they are under-counted elsewhere, too. Still, we, with 4% of the world's population, have 23% of the world's deaths. If this is not bad, I don't know what else is.

 

So excess deaths couldn't be anything but actual COVID-19? Nothing to do with stress, or lack of activity, or excessive eating, right?

My stress levels have nearly doubled since this has begun, I am what's considered 'essential personal' in keeping front line workers paid and money flowing to keep the business running. If I were to kick off due to this stress, I would likely show up as one of my underlying health issues, but since it was in the time frame of COVID-19, it must have been the actual virus, eh?

 

Yeah, sure, a small part of this may have been due to stress but you're overestimating it, in the middle of a freaking pandemic which much better explains the excess deaths.

Why is it that some people are so adamant in denying the obvious?

 

I'm over estimating what? I didn't quote numbers or percentages. I just highly doubt the 'excess deaths are all attributable to COVID-19 directly.

Why are some people willing to go to great lengths to deny logical possibilities?

 

We'll have a president who acts and behaves like a president, an adult in the White House. Not the present man-child who acts and behaves like a four year old spoiled brat with all his temper tantrums, his name calling, his creating of needless feuds. We'll be rid of Trump's 3rd grade schoolyard bullying antics, we won't have someone with the obnoxious personality of a WWE wrestler in a pre-fight interview. We might have some sanity returning, call it a return to normalcy.

Gee, a president who actually acts presidential, what a thought.

 

Yes, some deaths may be due to stress... But it stretches the imagination to suppose that 200,000 excess deaths are significantly due to other factors when we have confirmed 175K or such and we strongly suspect that a lot of other deaths by COVID-19 went undiagnosed due to a shortage of testing.

 

For the first point it is already too late, but the second, third and fourth one turned true even before Biden's inauguration.

 

Fake news