If liberals are smart and highly educated ---- why this

you dont get averages do you, its an education thing. when college educated make more money then uneducated it means the educated make more money then the uneducated.

 

Amen, Brother. Amen.

From a friend:

America was founded under Newtonian principles and the Enlightenment. Marxism, Progressivism, and Socialism came from the Darwinian world view. That is why the left is unconcerned with truth, as a principle. They are only concerned with the end result, and the means of getting there. Expediency, not accuracy, is their focus. Facts are always spun to advance their Leftist narratives, or accomplish a goal. Lies are used to further the Cause, because in their book, the end justifies the means. Hence, the pattern of mandated 'truth' by the left. Evidence and scientific methodology are not important, only crafting a plausible belief system, that works with their agenda.

Progressives/liberals believe that:

1. Naturalism is the only explanation for origins, science, and the existence of life. Evolution is proven fact. Those who are superior should rule.
2. Global warming (or climate change) is settled science, and it further shows the need to give power to the superior elite, which of course Leftists consider themselves to be.
3. Facts are irrelevant in examination of an issue.. Obama's birth certificate, Hillary's emails, Benghazi, all ask for trust, not critical examination or due process. The expert elite should be trusted, and must rule.
4. Smear campaigns against ideological enemies are not base on empirical fact, but accusation and phony narratives. 'Racist!', 'Denier!', and other pejoratives are used in place of facts. Trust the experts. They are superior, they deserve to rule. Just ask them.

As long as the foundation for this worldview remains, the ideology will continue. Unless a return to empiricism occurs, we will continue the slide away from the scientific method, back to science by decree. Critical thinking has given way to belief in the elite, and the opinion of 'experts'. The constant argument is over credentials of the claimant, not the accuracy or evidence of the content. But truth is not a democratic process, or a matter of consensus.

The only conclusion that can be made is the superiority of the evolved elite, and a mandate for them to rule. This is contrary to American principles of self rule, and human equality. It is a stark difference in worldview, but it has become the State Religion, and is indoctrinated in everyone from every institution in modern society. It portends the end of America, and the return to the dark ages.

 

And apparently you don't get that not all degrees are created equal. Some degrees earn enough to bump up that average which makes your shallow argument for you. However, telling a high school senior that is straight up misleading them.

The FACT is that some degrees are worth the money and some aren't. You can't argue against this as the FACTS are on my side, not yours.

 

hope this helps...
av·er·age
ˈav(ə)rij/
noun
plural noun: averages

1. 1.
   a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.

 

I'm not saying your wrong.

I'm saying your information is horribly misleading. And if you had an ounce of knowledge in statistics you'd know that averages can be greatly skewed making them near worthless.

You are massively deflecting from the FACT that many degrees are not worth the money and it's the ones that are that are bumping up this average your in love with.

Also, let me ask this: Are you concluding that if you go to college you'll make more money? Is this the point you are trying to make?

 

you are kidding right? read the link

 

Keep deflecting. It suits you.

I now realize you've yet to actually respond to a single thing I've said....you literally have nothing to say.

 

So you're trying to blame me cuz you can't follow a thread good luck with that. Is there no one around you that can show you how to click on the link.

 

Even if you are correct, who turns down free cash? If you go back to look up the laws, Democrats packed onto the backs of Americans most of the laws.

Return to history to see what party controlled both houses the majority of the time. I don't pay all that much attention to presidents given they do not craft laws, congress does.

 

This is a major problem. Democrats like to call themselves liberals, yet when i prove using the law books crafted by them, they really control us far more than do the republicans, they hardly bat an eye.

Ask them to discuss the economics of the USA and ask who created social security. What is the spending of social security of the entire budget? A huge part. As with Medicare it too consumes workers trying to keep paying those bills to the Feds.

Supposedly, classically a liberal stood for maximum freedom. Today Democrats argue they need even more laws. They hate seeing regulations and laws get removed. We have laws to this day that apply to horse and buggy days. Once a law is on the books, democrats wage war to keep them there.

For me to call a Democrat liberal would be akin to me saying Adolph Hitler was a liberal.

 

college was a joke. probably 70% had no business being there.

Higher education in its present form largely transfers wealth to the owners and debt to the masses. It has made education wildly expensive for the students who actually deserve to be there.

 

A pal of mine purchased land with almond trees upon it. He was super happy the Feds paid him a lot of money to not harvest his crop. Trees did all the work, Roger got all the pay.

He then explained the use of illegals on farms. Quite a story. The long and short, he did not directly hire them. He hired brokers who had illegals working for them. Said brokers had the workers come to harvest his trees. That is until the Feds stepped in to pay him for his crop.

 

I clicked your link....did you?

It says the same thing you're saying. A blanket statement that is only true in some instances. Yea, the overall average might be higher, but that is VERY misleading and incomplete because it is NOT the case for all majors.

Do you know a lick of statistics?....like any...at all?

 

I'm the one that posted the link Skippy, it's an average the way averages worth is some will be higher and some will be lower holy crap dude if you have to look it up

 

I guess because if you are "highly educated and smart", you get to actually understand what socialism is. Even if you are a "little" educated you can understand. And it's not what you obviously think it is.. Maybe a little education could help you.

 

I know you posted it. I'm just not sure you read it as it says nothing different.

How about you go back and read my posts and RESPOND TO THEM?

Like I said earlier, you're not wrong, just terribly misleading. Typical lefty garbage, spin it until if makes you look good. Who cares who's mislead, who cares how incomplete the statement is, as long as you think you come out looking good.

Everything I've said is 100% right and accurate and you've been unable to respond to ANY of it. Enjoy your pseudo stats that are horribly misleading. This garbage is no different than the even more misleading 'women make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes' narrative pushed by the left. True?...yes. Totally useless and misleading?....hell yes.

Congrats, that's the category you're in.

 

I base the claim on my observations through life; it's called 'experience'.

 

If humans weren't greedy there would be no need for socialism.

 

I think you're confusing socialism with capitalism here. Capitalists in America have already achieved all the things you've cited in your post. I offer as proof the fact that over the past four decades the distribution of wealth in America has gone from about 20% of the wealthiest Americans owning and controlling 80% of everything of value in our nation to today's mind-boggling fact that less than 2% of our wealthiest families now own and control 99% of everything of value in our nation. That's pure capitalism gone stark raving mad, and conservative and alt-right Republicans now want to strengthen the laws of the nation that contribute to that inequity.

 

To attack all laws as bad without specifying which ones really are and why is so generalized as to be meaningless--except ideologically. As a liberal, I totally agree that once laws are passed they are seldom removed. The reason for that isn't some cynical conspiracy by liberals to oppress. It's simply a fact that researching old outdated laws, writing replacements or submitting them to state or federal legislatures for deletion is expensive in both time and money, and no party--including Republicans--wants to make that investment. It's easier to complain. On the other hand, many laws or especially regulations are there for a very good reason--to protect Americans from some danger or threat. To be sure, there exists laws of this nature that need review and some sort of action, but many are very good laws that serve a good purpose, and those deserve our respect and continued support. As a liberal and a Democrat, I would be happy to have an open and honest discussion on the merits of each law, but also as a liberal and a Democrat, I can't imagine the conservatives currently in power agreeing to spend the time and money necessary to accomplish that feat.

 

Substitute the word "capitalism" in the slot you placed "socialism" and then your post would have merit.

 

Capitalism stems from our inherit need for competition. If there was no greed we wouldn't take that need to so far to the point where it becomes amoral and thus damages society.

 

The state of our society today, with less than 2% of our wealthiest families owning and controlling 99% of the wealth of our nation, stands as evidence that American Capitalism has gone sickeningly awry, and argues against the precepts of your post.

 

O, my bad. I didn't realize we lived in an alternate universe where greed wasn't a factor.

 

For the record I prefer Marxism and Communism over anything else but humans just aren't evolved enough at the moment to carry out those types of governments correctly. Maybe in a hundred years or so...