If Mohammad was alive today, and had sex with a kid, would Muslims demand jail time?

Speaking of "psychopaths", can we both condemn "god" for not arresting "Satan" all these many many years? I'd arrest him....how about you, Ronstar?

 

do you have the moral courage to get off your high horse and stop accusing all you disagree with of being untermenschen?

 

They give it tacit approval by endorsing the book to their children.....clearly.

 

you think God should have "arrested" Satan?

you mean like, put him in handcuffs and take him to the county jail?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

do you accept disciplinary spanking of children?

 

No. Then there could be no other limits on how many partners (that almost always come and go), what they do.



I'd rather kids be allowed to be adopted by a family of wolves.

 

You can't condemn Allah for saying to beat wives in the Qur'an, I see.
A Modern Secular Humanist can indeed condemn those that give their followers (in the case of Allah), or their children (in the case of Muslims), texts, sacred texts no less, that instruct to beat women. I care about my mom enough to condemn those texts.

 

You, like the zombie from Nazareth, are on the WRONG side of history.

 

do you have the moral courage to condemn disciplinary spanking of children?

 

I'm not really for it. Do keep in mind that women are not children, so Q4:34 is ridiculous. The Bible approves of beating children, but the Bible also approves of beating slaves TO DEATH, so of course the ethical advice in the Bible is barbaric, barbaric, and barbaric.

PS did I mention the Bible and Jewish texts approve of SLAVERY in the first place!? What a retarded god.

 

so you can't find the moral courage to condemn violence against children?


funny, and I thought MSH was more moral. I guess not.

 

I do think there's a better way - rewards, instead of punishments.
How about you condemn Muslims for Q4:34 (wife BEATING!), THEN we'll talk about disciplining children, mkay?

 

Like I said, I don't support it.

 

I won't bow to your demands until you condemn violence against children

 

Anything to take the focus away from the fact that you can't condemn Q4:34's wife beating....

 

Well, one can just look at places like gangland Chicago and Detroit and see what happens when there are no fathers running a family in any significant numbers.

Ceremonial laws, like women talking during in a synagogue, are not binding to Christians--nor are cultural laws and customs (women, don't cut your hair). Only moral laws are: no homosexuals, no beastaphiles, no sex outside a traditional man/woman marriage, no murdering, and so forth.

 

Like I said, I'm against violence against children. Spanking shows a lack of creativity in coming up with positive alternatives to the violence. The Bible approves of beatings, so it will be hard to change people's behavior, unfortunately. Can we agree that it would be great if Jesus could muster the moral courage to, over 2000 years, tell us that the Bible got it wrong about beating children?

 

how u figure?

Paul commanded all Christians to not allow women to speak in Church or ever have authority over men.

The Old Testament rules are only binding upon Jews.

 

so can you show the moral courage to CONDEMN disciplinary spanking?

it appears you can't.

 

Jesus can't summon the moral courage to just, in 2000 years, come down and tell us "ok, look, we screwed up, we got it morally wrong in the Bible where it says to kill or discriminate against gays - I was wrong and I'll now let gays in to heaven - please forgive me."
I'd forgive Jesus - because I'm more forgiving than Jesus is.

 

He's got you, Greataxe.

 

So Paul was an idiot - I believe I can do better than a religion largely "created" by an idiot.

 

So what are the limits?

You have two Asian orphans aged 3 and 4 years old. They have no living relatives. Their parent's religion was not known.

You would be okay with them living with multiple swinging gays, who change partners every few months?

What is the maximum number of gays living at one place that you would allow adopting the kids into?

If you only wanted them to be adopted by one gay couple (2 people), what's the least amount of time they could be a couple before they could adopt?

 

that's a lie, as you condemned the "turn the other cheek" philosophy

 

I do condemn spanking - there are better ways. Religions use fear (spanking, wife beating, fear of "hell") to get what they want - I'd prefer to move beyond the fear that religions instill in people, where feasible. Let's be better than god/Jesus - I know we can do that.