'if they were black'

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Unfortunately the outcome would have been different, much different.
     
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    This thread has a pretty basic premise problem. When it was ANTIFA and BLM in the streets, tell us again who got shot? If not the police, who?
     
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    Yeah I'm not getting the premise. Someone was shot yesterday by the Capital Police, and there will be no public protests about that, no funerals in a gold plated carriage covered on live TV, and no parade of endless establishment politicians and social leaders praising her.
     
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    Well ... from a general perspective, when a rioter [or even a common demonstrator] loses his or her life we have to recognize that it's a sad event that we should manage to avoid.

    But when someone looks for troubles deciding to do something which is illegal even potentially [potentially] endangering the members of a Parliament ... now, let's be serious. The Secret Service and the Capital Police were outnumbered. In the doubt that some of the rioters and/or demonstrators were carrying weapons [and we cannot exclude this] some agents have opened fire.

    This has happened in all countries [in Italy the last "incident" happened during a G8 when a Carabiniere killed a guy handling a fire extinguisher: the soldier thought that the demonstrator was going to use that object like a weapon ... and why should a demonstrator handle a fire extinguisher?].

    This kind of incident usually happens when the defended "entity" is very important. The units defending it feel the urgency to act to ensure the security of the "entity".

    Unfortunately someone can be killed.

    But I do not think we will see people protesting going around with banners saying "White Lives Matter".
     
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    It has no premise problem.

    The police beat the crap out of BLM protesters just for the sake that Donald could have a picture taken outside.
    And that's how the police behaved against peaceful BLM protesters.

    The police viscously attacked BLM rioters, permanently disabling members of the free press. Knocking the elderly in the hospitals.
    We all know the police would have shot to kill if these people entered any federal building. And you lot would have cheered at it too.
     
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    She got shot a terrorist. You're free to have your little protest in support that she got killed for her terroristic ways.
    This is very different than Floyd who got executed to death over the course of 9 minutes while handcuffed and not being a terrorist.


    You thinking it's all and the same, really shows you get nothing and are in a fake reality bubble to get indoctrinated by unpatriotic fascist news.
     
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    When you participate in an effort to overthrow your government you're playing a big boy game whether you realize it or not and you might have to pay a big boy penalty. You can be damn sure there would have been more deaths if the insurgents were BLM.
     
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    Don't get me started on

    'if they were Muslim'


    just saying.
     
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    Floyd was one person. The rioting he inspired that went on for months with nary a comment from our establishment caused billions in damaged, destroyed small businesses, killed and injured people, and will have economic ramifications to certain cities for years to come.

    "Peaceful protest."

    I'm not defending the rioting yesterday, far from it. But I don't recall any butch comments from you this summer. This is simply a case of when the left riots, it's OK.
     
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    Overthrow the government? You're high, and again, BLM and Antifa has been rioting for months with nary a word from you. Not interested in your hypocrisy
     
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    Maybe the better question would be, what race commits the highest percentage of violent crimes?
     
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    Thing is Mike....
    The terrorists attacked and subsequently got killed. You want to have a march to honor a terrorist.
    Floyd was tortured to death over the course of 9 minutes while handcuffed. Hence people marched in his honor for being executed in a horrifical way for no reason.

    You might not see any difference because you know Floyd is black and might think his life doesn't matter. But people who aint racist to the core quickly spot a MASSIVE difference between killing a terrorist in action, and torturing a person to death of the course of 9 minutes while he's handcuffed for no reason..

    You're also wrong that Floyd inspired the riots.
    The cops inspired the riots by torturing Floyd to death over the course of 9 minutes. It's THEIR fault.

    Cops, who got no problem torturing a handcuffed person to death. We all know white fascists support cops doing that.
    Same group of fascists attacked the capitol. Same group of cops who as good just let it all happen in the capitol.
    Same cops who beat the crap out of black rioters.

    The racist double standards are exceptionally clear.
    The cops and the fascists are right in the middle of this s*** storm.



    So all in all.... your narrative contains loads of utterly flawed fake OANN points of views.
    And I'm calling you out over this.
     
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    "You want to have a march to honor a terrorist."-false statement. Please support or retract.

    As for the rest of your dribble, we're talking about rioting, not the reasons for it, UNLESS you are saying rioting and violence can be justified. Is that what you are saying?
     
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    When people pull up statistics about that... they only find the amount of people who got arrested.
    And it's obvious violent crimes got committed by 100's of predominantly white terrorists in the Capitol, while non of them got arrested.
    The president -who is white- even expressed his love for them when they did that.

    We do know them cops hardly lifted a finger against this predominantly white violent group.
    We do know the cops beat black rioters on a massive scale and arrested loads of them.
    We do know the same white violent group support cops beating black rioters.

    Have fun with showing statistics that cops arrest far more black people for violent crimes than white people.
    It means nothing.
     
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    Dear Mike... you brought this on to yourself by equating the torturing of a black man to death over the course of 9 minutes for absolutely no reason at all, and accusing him -while he is already dead- of inspiring riots... and you equated that with killing a terrorist as if it's the same.

    You must retract all comments you made about Floyd, and admit that the cops inspired the riots by the way they killed a black man for no reason.
    The same cops who hardly did anything against violent terrorists attacking the capitol.

    It really was absolutely low what you did.
     
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    Name one unarmed black protester police have shot.

    But hell yeah - fire Pelosi's ass! The Capital police are run by Congress itself - not city, county, state or the federal government. Specifically by Congress. That old white racist extending her white privilege to white protesters - other than the unarmed white woman gunned down in cold blood - should be thrown to the curb.

    With this incident, House Democrats now are promptly going to do that, don't you think?
     
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    Why?
    ANTIFA and BLM was in the streets BECAUSE the police kill African Americans for BEING.

    Now have there been any White middle class people gunned down in their apartment by an off-duty copy in the wrong apartment?
    How about a white woman gunned down in her bedroom because the police just started shooting on a drug raid? Hmm?
    And on and on...

    And, the story goes like they're reading from the same script...
    Saw something in his/her/their hand/pocket/floor
    And shot in self defense...

    Ya know, and I'm just tossing this out there, maybe, just maybe the dog didn't eat the homework.
    And maybe the problem is with the homework and not the dog?
     
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    You continue to lay on the false statements.

    So again...

    1. "You want to have a march to honor a terrorist."-false statement. Please support or retract.

    2. "you brought this on to yourself by equating the torturing of a black man to death over the course of 9 minutes for absolutely no reason at all, and accusing him -while he is already dead- of inspiring riots... and you equated that with killing a terrorist as if it's the same." again, false statement. I made no such comparison. My comparison was about the RIOTING. The causes are irrelevant because the rioting is wrong in any case.

    Are you going to continue to post false statements?
     
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    Not going to retract a thing.
    Donald inspired people to riot with his speeches with fight this, fight that. Take back the nation. March to the capitol.
    Freaking Giuliani, his lawyer, yelled we must have a trial by combat. That's inspiring people to riot.
    They got blood on their hands for inspiring thug terrorists.

    And you accused Floyd, when he already was tortured to death to inspire riots.
    He did nothing like them white folks did. That should be going without saying.
    Sheer insanity that you claim he did. And I'm calling you out over this.

    See that I care you got mental problems with it or whatever. I really do not care.

    And yeah. This is even on point of the topic...
    How white people get treated vs how black people get treated.
     
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    They did shoot them. One of them was shot dead.

    Absolutely rich post after months of violent riots across America wherein leftist mayors and governors completely stood down, going so far as to defend and kneecap the police, with the media running defence for "peaceful protestors" as they took over police stations, instigated autonomous zones and fire bombed buildings.

    When the right starts using the tactics of the left civil war can't be far behind.
     
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    No getting around the fact that some of police facilitated the terrorists I think every one of the eight senators who objected to the ratification of the election and the same for the House Republicans who did the same thing should be expelled from government service, Guys like Hawley should be arrested for his role in inciting the riot. Handcuff him to Don Jr. Handcuff Donald and Rudy together, and don't be too gentle putting them into the back of the car . If you want to put a knee on a neck be my guest. oops my inner Republican is shinning through.
     
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    There's reports in Europe on Euronews, BBC, ect... That authorities took selfies with these people who stormed Congress, and it is said these people were armed and left pipe bombs.
    Now compare that to the reaction BLM got last summer that didn't bring arms or storm any buildings and wasn't looking to start a revolution or a civil war.
     
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