Ilhan Omar Trivializes 9/11 Terrorist Attacks: 'Some People Did Something'

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  1. US Conservative

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    The difference is Obama had to GO BACK IN to Iraq, and expand into Syria to fight ISIS. A tacit admission his withdrawal was a fail.
     
  2. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I heard that on National People's Radio this morning while those moral and intellectual pygmies were circling the wagons around their precious jihadist apologist.
     
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    What defines us as a people is a matter of opinion. Mine differs from yours.
     
  4. US Conservative

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    Did NPR ask her about the somali man that threw a child from the 3rd floor of the Mall of America?
     
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    Obama = Omar? OMG. Obama is a Christian, fer crissake.
    Are you one of the All Muslims Are Enemies crowd? A lot of Obama's detractors were in that group.
    What makes you think Obama is Sharia or imposing penalties of any kind for blasphemy?

    In terms of rhetoric, Obama's pandered to an element of his party that always opposes using physical force. Every Democrat has to deal with these types since the Vietnam War.
     
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    According to Islam, the son of a Muslim, as Obama is, is always a Muslim.
     
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    I didn't get that info from a "news" source.

    Snopes is a good source, btw?

    I post stuff from there, and Trump supporters laugh at it.

    Also, Snopes says "While there is anecdotal evidence that Trump dabbled in prostitution".

    So anyway, little Donny does like his porn stars and whores and he is a German Christian, just like Hitler.
     
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    Trump is on his way out of Syria and Afghanistan too soon. Stay tuned.
     
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    All I'm saying is little Donny likes porn stars and he is a German Christian just like Hitler.

    Facts.
     
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    Indeed, during a half-hour address concerning Muslim-American equal rights, Representative Omar made reference to "some people" having done "some things." They were, specifically, nineteen men affiliate with Al Qaeda, 15 of whom were citizens of Saudi Arabia, 2 from the United Arab Emirates, 1 from Egypt, and 1 from Lebanon, that hijacked 4 airplanes on 9/11/01 and caused the deaths of nearly 3,000.

    Trump, who had actually attempted to impose religious discrimination upon US immigration law, tried to exploit, for his political purposes, words extracted from her address, insinuating that she, in some vague, way condoned the horrific events of 9/11. The truth is that Omar has never expressed anything even remotely approbatory of the terrorist attacks.

    Omar, who is a young, Black, female, Muslim, Democratic American fits a profile that is targeted by an extremist element in the US.

    The mass killer who shot Muslim 50 worshippers to death in Christchurch, New Zealand just last month cited Trump as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose." As a symbol for "some people" who do "some things" such as that, Trump's divisive hysterics for hyper-partisan purposes does not serve America.

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    Let us, rather, promote the nation's ideals and instill unity, not pander to the forces of hatred. Provoking death threats is unAmerican, especially irresponsible when it is done from a position of responsibility.

    George W Bush, September 17, 2001:
    [T]he American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.

    These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that.

    The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

    The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.

    When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.

    America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.

    Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes. Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America. That's not the America I know. That's not the America I value.

    I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America.

    Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior.

    This is a great country. It's a great country because we share the same values of respect and dignity and human worth. And it is my honor to be meeting with leaders who feel just the same way I do. They're outraged, they're sad. They love America just as much as I do.

    I want to thank you all for giving me a chance to come by. And may God bless us all.”



     
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    You think he got lost on his way to the mosque?
     
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    Alrighty then, I guess we're doing that then.

    All I'm saying is Barry Obama's daddy was a wife-beating, child-abusing drunk who abandoned his son.

    Facts are sure fun.
     
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    Snopes is ok, but not 100% accurate all the time. They also tend to put some bias into their determination....though I have not really seen them avoid actual facts.

    So, what are you saying? That all German Christians that like whores are Hitler-ess? Kind of a broad brush you are painting with there, Skippy.

    p.s. "dabbling in prostitution" is not what you were claiming. What you were claiming is a complete falsehood.
     
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    A broad brush, eh?

    You noticed?

    Do you get it, Skippy?
     
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    Do I get what? That you post falsehoods and make asinine comparisons? Yeah....I got that.
     
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    I didn't post falsehoods.

    It's a fact that Trump likes porn stars and he is German Christian just like Hitler.

    I guess you don't get it. Are you reading this thread?

    It's about people's backgrounds, religions, etc. Obviously, if one has the same background as someone like Hitler, they must be the same in every way.
     
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    Trump should be deported:

    When German Immigrants Were America’s Undesirables
    Woodrow Wilson thought German Americans couldn't assimilate.
    https://www.history.com/news/anti-german-sentiment-wwi
    All of this anti-German sentiment did two things. First, it motivated Anglo-Americans to push back against anything German. States banned German-language schools and removed German books from libraries. Some German Americans were interned, and one German American man, who was also targeted for being socialist, was killed by a mob.
     
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    German immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants.

    Small-minded xenophobes make a lot of noise in the US, especially when led by demagogues like DJT
     
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    She would have been more correct had she said some Muslims committed mass murder but she was working around that. They were specific people of a specific culture. If Omar represents the moderate Muslims the peaceful tag may not apply as broadly as some people seem to think.
     
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    I don't think Barry is really truly any religion, when he was making his ascension in the Chicago South Side political world, membership in a church was sort of required. And the one he chose run by the racist Rev. Wright is ahem, quite unusual to say the least.
     
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    I heard one Muslim say what Omar said is commonly said by Muslims in private, i.e. anti-Semitism, victimization, etc. We just got to hear what many of her brethren say in private.
     
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    I didn't say Obama = Omar and unlike the jihadist apologist from Minnesota Obama never struck me as a particularly religious person. In fact, Jeremiah Wright's church of Black Liberation Theology isn't much of a church at all.

    No, I'm not one of the "all Muslims are enemies" crowd and my comments about the need to distinguish between the Islamists, jihadists and takfirists who are our enemies and the Muslims who are not should make that clear. In fact, it was a Muslim who lives in Ankara who invited me to this forum.

    Furthermore, I was a prominent member in the local "Safe & Free" coalition that lobbied to ensure that the rights of Muslims and all our citizens were protected after the passage of the Patriot Act.

    I don't think Obama is in favor of that, but I agree with Qanta Ahmed that his Islamophobic refusal to define, explain and confront our Islamist enemies was a liability for our country and it proved that he was incapable of leading the fight against Islamism.

    That's partially true, and the fact he was a product of the so-called "anti-war" Left which had allied itself with Islamist groups during the Iraq War has a lot to do with his foolishly stubborn refusal to utter the word Islamist, his failure to stand in solidarity with world leaders in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo attack, and worst of all, his unwillingness to combat Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's blood cult until he was pressured by the American people and prominent Leftists such as Chris Matthews to act after the beheading of James Foley and IS's rampage through Iraq in 2014.
     
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    Congratulations.
     
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    Godwin's Law doesn't apply to actual Nazis.
     
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    She would have been even more accurate if she had said that 15 young male, non-Black Muslim extremists, primarily from Saudi Arabia, all from the Middle East, had committed an horrific act, but I am not commenting on her choice of words.

    There are Islamophobes who prefer to ignore the reality that most victims of Islamist extremists, by far, are Muslims. That reality does not enhance their need to demean a religion.

    Trump's divisive hype panders to his base, but does a disservice to the nation. As a proclaimed "symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose," he should realize that he can provoke death threats by his followers, and not necessarily empty ones.

    His Cesar Seyoc fanatics are highly unstable.


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