Ilhan Omar Trivializes 9/11 Terrorist Attacks: 'Some People Did Something'

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  1. Heartburn

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    Trumps base is America. The left wing has moved so far outside the mainstream they don't recognize the reality of this country anymore. His second term will be pretty interesting and there will be a second term.
     
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    Barry, if you're correct, would likely join Slick Willie, Ronnie, and maybe Bush the Elder, as pretend believers. I think Dubya and Jimmy are real Christians.
     
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    You're sure about that, are you?

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    Your best chance will be Democrats doing some really stupid and nominating Warren or Sanders.
     
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    And from the Founding Fathers.
     
  5. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the thing - Omar does not represent moderate Muslims. Moderate Muslims don't work around what happened on 9/11 because they don't have to - that's what Islamists and jihadist apologists and sympathizers do. Moderate Muslims don't do fundraisers for groups that are linked to jihadist groups - in CAIR's case, Hamas - they speak out against them, their ideology and agenda. Moderate Muslims don't defend and make excuses for the people who join Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's Islamist death cult - they fight them alongside their fellow Americans.

    It's amusing how the "progressives" who defend Omar and her antics just because she is Black, female, Muslim and a Democrat think they are any better than the people who are are attacking her just because she is Black, female, Muslim and a Democrat, when they are, in fact, two sides of the same coin.
     
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    Sure. Unlike they, I disapprove of slavery.
     
  7. Heartburn

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    Yes, I'm sure. Go back and take a look at all the polls and graphs from the last campaign.
     
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    "I'M AMERIKA!"

    That is what Trump fanatics tell themselves, but his relentlessly dismal poll numbers, in survey after survey, throughout his tenure, ever since 2.9 million more Americans voted for his unpopular opponent, confirm the reality that most Americans think he stinks.

    Their boogieman "left wing!"* over whom Trump's cult obsesses is a stereotypical cartoon that ideological media entertainers contrive to keep them diverted from the ravages of Trumpery.

    *"Left wing" = women, Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, younger, better-educated Americans, and ultra-conservative lawyer George Conway
    who had previously worked closely with Ann Coulter and Matt Drudge on the Paula Jones case, the Ann Coulter who has openly admitted...

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    "He's just been jerking us around."

    Obviously, most Americans understand that.

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    "I likes how he bamboozled most 'mericans by
    lyin' 'bout releasin' his tax returns,
    and is doin' it to 'em again!
    FOOL THEM TWICE!"
     
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    How colorful but it isn't America. Most of America doesn't care about Trump's tax returns and he is not under any legal obligation to make them public.
     
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    Do you have any credible evidence to cite for your defense of Trump's lie?

    He had promised to release them, and every survey that I have seen confirms that most Americans expect him to keep his word, regardless of his being desperate to hide them.

     
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    There is no legal requirement for trump to release his tax returns
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Your defense of Trump's having lied to the American people who still expect him to come clean is noted.

    Of course, his keeping his word to Americans is a separate matter from the IRS being required, by law, to provide them to the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives.

    IRS Code section 6103(f):

    “Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.”
     
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    Trump is not “any taxpayer”

    He does not have to turn over his tax records to the democrat wolves in congress
     
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    This is just another Democrat/liberal witch hunt, there is nothing in those returns but political outrages to be politically mined. Actually, they are none of your or my business and Congress has no right to see them without enough probable cause for a warrant. He should tell Congress to go fly a kite. Oh wait, he's already done that hasn't he?
     
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    It does not matter if Trump stood on a stack of bibles and swore to St. Pancras. He is not required by law to release his tax returns. If the "voters" to not like the fact that he changed his mind and reneged, then vote his out of office.

    Yes, the chairmen of those committees can request his tax returns. However, they can only do so for legislative reasons (i.e. pending laws or oversight of existing law). They can not request them for the purpose of looking for possible "dirt". That is a violation of the 4th Amendment. Only a fool can not see that the requests by Neal and Nadler are political.
     
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    Trump is not above the law. The law is unambiguous: "“Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request..."

    If Trump is convinced that he needs to hide his tax returns from the American public despite his promise to share them, that is a political matter, and it is the American people's right to keep asking him to keep his word to them. (His fake excuse for hiding them, an endless "audit" has long been discredited.)

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    "If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely!
    And I would love to do that!"

    Trump, 2014
     
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    Oh, so ugly against our sister Ilhan Omar for just telling the truth to the war mongering hypocrites. The ung-dly are the boring and the boring are the damned. Christians and Muslims share common beliefs in the Divine. So, dear Ilham Omar, my video to you and G-d bless you!


    "Full Circle"

    Stars were falling deep in the darkness
    As prayers rose softly, petals at dawn
    And as I listened, your voice seemed so clear
    So calmly you were calling your god

    Somewhere the sun rose, o'er dunes in the desert
    Such was the stillness, I ne'er felt before
    Was this the question, pulling, pulling, pulling you
    In your heart, in your soul, did you find rest there?

    Elsewhere a snowfall, the first in the winter
    Covered the ground as the bells filled the air
    You in your robes sang, calling, calling, calling him
    In your heart, in your soul, did you find peace there?
     
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    Congress is not authorized to go fishing in trumps personsl tax returns
     
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    If that were true, Trump can dispel suspicions by keeping his promise to release them, satisfy the vast majority of Americans who agree that he should, exonerate himself in the process, and destroy his political opponents who believe he has ample reason to have lied when he said that he would release them like every other presidential candidate.
     
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    If you need to ignore Trump having promised the American people to release them, please cite your statute that you claim nullifies IRS Code section 6103(f): “Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request ..."
     
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    Whether trump releases or not is a political question not a legal one
     
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    Trump can persist in pulling excuses out of his ample butt for lying to the American people about releasing his tax returns, and the American people can persist in demanding that he keep his promise to them. That is a political matter.

    As a matter of law, "Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request..."

    There is nothing in the IRS code about "They can not request them for the purpose of looking for possible "dirt",
     
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    Only liberal socialist democrats are demanding to see trump tax records
     
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    It might not be in the IRS code, but it is LAW that already has been ruled on by SCOTUS. Congressional committees can not conduct investigations unless it is for LEGISLATIVE PURPOSES. They can not investigate for the sole purpose of looking for "dirt". Investigating ANYBODY without probably cause of a crime is a violation of the 4th Amendment....and that includes tax returns. We even fought a war over a policy of "looking for dirt until we find something".

    Politicians have lied to the public for decades....even centuries. Some believe that the top Presidential "liars" include Washington, Lincoln, Jackson, JFK, and even Obama

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/...story-and-how-does-donald-trump-compare.html/

    We can demand all we want. We can expect our politicians to be more honest. However, we are impotent in our demands as long as the LAW does not require Presidents and Presidential candidates to submit tax returns. It is not an excuse.....it is a fact of Rule of Law.
     
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    You can try to make excuses for Trump's lying if you need to, but the American people have the right to persist in demanding that he keep his word to them. If keeping his promised would result in exposing information he feels he needs to conceal, he won't keep his word.

    As for the IRS following its Code, Section 6103(f) that clearly states, "Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request..." that well may be a matter Trump can tie up in the courts until 2020 like his fantasy erection that he promised Mexico would pay for.
     

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