Illegal land grabs spreading across South Africa

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ok it's cray cray, happening now across large parts of South Africa, the fakestream media largely absent, not a reporter in sight :lol: useless (ps. we thank the Trump Administration for addressing Google's persecution of conservative media, without stopping them we wouldn't know this is happening)

    There's one article about land grabs in Joburg I found after searching but the videos also contain footage taken by ordinary people showing cars parked next to the road and people simply claiming areas that are not occupied.

    The ANC have confiscated 4000 farms which they have not redistributed, some have been handed to corrupt officials.
    Govt sits on 4 000 farms, yet hints at expropriation
    https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Agribusiness/govt-sits-on-4-000-farms-yet-hints-at-expropriation-20170522


    The people say they have been promised free land in the election and they are now taking what was promised.
    Joburg South land grabs: ‘We will go to war,’ say residents
    https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/nati...go-to-war-say-residents/ar-AAEEuvh?li=BBqfP3n


    Scott can drag on a bit (lol bless him) but the footage from people can be found in this video at 4 minutes into this video AND 4.52 minutes (a second one)
    Illegal land grabs spreading across South Africa


    In this video below you can view footage from 1.55min in

    Land grabs by affluent Africans in South Africa
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    without farmland the food will eventually run out and these squatters will move to Europe :lol: please make sure you allocate some land because they'll be there shortly :roflol:

    They also like to eat "mieliepap" (which is maize based), so please organise sufficient quantities. Thank you to the Germans for organising transport across the Mediterranean.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Any white or 'colored' in South Africa who didn't sell up and get out, once it became clear that there would be majority rule, was entering themselves for a Darwin Award. What's happening now is their prize.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    very ignorant comment... clearly no consideration for people paying off loans for property legally obtained, living from day to day, those who do not qualify for immigration to other countries, the elderly, orphans or people living below the breadline.

    But fear not, the Afrikaner is clearly smarter and more resilient than you globalists will ever be, they will not only survive but thrive once more...the Nguni tribes are self-destructing while the globalists are feeding on the country.... stealing money and draining it for every last bit of blood.... it only exposes the globalists for who they truly are...we all see you now.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Donor

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    You've got to face reality. French Jews had better be preparing to leave.
    Whites in South Africa live behind barbed wire.
    Let the airhead Lefties talk about the joys of multiculturalism -- they make sure they don't have to experience it. In the meantime, forget your mortgage, get out.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Run Dough run.... running is not an option for everyone... at some point you stand and fight... and I'm talking hypothetically... not war, you go back to the drawing board, you look at your options and you restructure from there..... not just run Forest run all the time... that's what scum globalists do, they steal as much as they can then run

    In the next 10 to 20 years South Africa's cities will become uninhabitable, water is already at crisis point...don't you just love open borders :lol:

    https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/agr...ter-quality-and-quantity-reach-crisis-levels/

     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    btw Dough... you forget the Nguni are nomads... why leave, when at some point they will leave... for Europe
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Didn't you leave?

    Anyway I think @Doug1943 makes a fair point. The unwinding of South Africa was bound to happen at some point, so it seems that some planning to leave should have been in the back of every White person's mind.
     
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    Yes I left in 95... when they handed over to the ANC, I am now in a position to regularly donate money even when the country falls apart there are many South Africans outside of the country who wants to help... and will be able to financially

    Re the leaving, you're not thinking...I'll say it again, not everyone CAN leave, not everyone WANTS to leave, AND most importantly, leaving is not the only option. The Afrikaner is already planning to rebuild, they are systematically moving towards building their own country with other minorities who are also being sidelined in the Rainbow nation. you know how the saying goes.. every dark cloud... and lemons into lemonade... basically create opportunity, opportunity to retain their culture.

    https://ulacongress.com/

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    I fully grant that not everyone could leave in 95, but 20 years is enough time to put together a plan, and more importantly come to the determination that there isn't a future there.

    As far as what appears to be a resurrection of the idea of Bantustans, that would have been a great idea...in the 1980's. It seems like the national government would never allow that now. That would lead to an extremely bloody civil war I would think.
     
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    However did America come into existence wth such a defeatist attitude...is there nothing left of the same spirit displayed by your founding fathers?

    The Afrikaner built South Africa, clearly they are going to have to do it again, but this time it will be on their terms. They gave the Rainbow Nation a 100% effort (for the 25 years you say wasted... NO ONE can say they didn't try) and their reward was to not only watch everything they built destroyed and covered in ****...literally. But there are over a 100 laws discriminating against them because of the colour of their skin. No one cares about all their complaints, no one listens.... fine... then just get the **** out of their way so they can get the job done.

    As for war... they don't want war.. but the Afrikaner comes from a looooong history of warfare...I will remind you that if you want to know how to wage war in Africa... you ask a white South African, they've written the book on it.

    Composite Warfare: The Conduct of Successful Ground Forces Operations in Africa
    https://www.amazon.com/Composite-Warfare-Conduct-Successful-Operations/dp/1910294993
     
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  13. Doug1943

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    I believe in pessimism of the intellect, and optimism of the will.

    That means, for things we cannot avoid, let's hope for the best and throw ourselves into the struggle to make them the best.
    Furthermore, there are things which will be true in the long run, but which may not be true in the short run. The course of true love never did run smooth, so also the course of human history.

    I hope that in the long run, sheer economic necessity will meld the human species together, because co operation, over time, pays more than conquest. Someone, a few thousand years ago, realized that instead of trying to kill all the adult males in the next village and carry off their good stuff, which was dangerous and in any case a one-off, it would be better to swap our arrowheads for their pots. This didn't mean the end of war, but it did give us a competing model for how to get ahold of good pots and arrowheads.

    But ... you have to take note of the short term. Rationally, once Hitler was in power, he should have behaved as most German Jews thought he would -- make nasty noises at them, pass some symbolic laws, and privately make sure they stayed and carried on making Germany rich. They would have built him an atomic bomb if he had done that. But the heart has its reasons, of which reason knows nothing.

    We all hoped that Mr Mandela would prove not just to be an extraordinary human being -- one of the towering figures of the 20th Century -- but broadly representative of his people. Then, after the Black elite had been let in on the goodies, and the rest of the Black population entered on to the path of modernity, mainly via decent educational opportunities, and some informal affirmative action in employment, South Africa would prove to be a mighty economic engine that would draw the rest of sub-Saharan Africa up with it. That this was not a completely crazy idea is shown by Botswana -- the hope was that South Africa would become a giant Botswana (minus the very high HIV infection rate there, a cruel accident of history).

    And maybe it still will. Perhaps as the Chinese buy the place up, a few million rand slipped into the right hands will keep the elite there from cutting their own throats and driving out or killing the people who keep the electricity running and the flush toilets working. Maybe they can be prevented from turning the place into another Zimbabwe. All decent people hope so.

    But if you're an ordinary Black South African, the idea that this was your country, that it's not fair that these white Europeans came and took all the good things, and still have them ... despite having behaved atrociously towards you or your ancestors, without ever being punished for it ... that's a powerful feeling, and there are votes to be had in appealing to it.

    So post-Apartheid South Africa was an experiment.

    Whether or not you, as a white or colored South African wanted to take part in this experiment was, of course, a personal decision, and probably affected by how much property you owned which couldn't be converted to money, your own attachment to the land you grew up in, your own belief that your nice Black servants couldn't possibly butcher you in the night...

    Of course white liberals and Lefties in the West have heads stuffed with idealistic nonsense about the ANC and Africans in general, along with the desire to watch white colonialists suffer. If they had read Rian Malan's My Traitor's Heart they would know just how things really work in South Africa, behind the scenes.

    A previous wife told me that, within her family, -- many of whose ancestors and relatives perished in the Holocaust -- they had a saying, apparently inspired by the behavior of relatives in Berlin who refused to leave when the could have : "Forget about the Grand Piano!" (Apparently these people had a beautiful grand piano which they couldn't bring themselves to sell. The grand piano is no doubt still there -- the Nazis were cultured people -- but its owners went up the chimneys.)

    Of course, some form of national self-determination, a federation of self-governing nations in the area, with each tribe having its own, might be a solution. Zionism for everyone, or, to sell it in a way that the ANC elite might like, consistent Leninism on the National Question. But it takes a very advanced liberal democracy to concede the right of self-determination -- the Swedes let the Norwegians go, the Czechs let the Slovaks go, the British will let Scotland go and the Canadians will let Quebec go. Maybe the Spanish will be civilized enough to cut the Basques and Catalans loose.

    But I don't see it happening in Africa. In the long term, the peoples of this continent will be pulled into modernity, just as we all were. Capitalism is inexorable. But in the short term, my advice would be to go to someplace where modernity has already conquered, a place where most of the inhabitants look like you, or at least don't harbor a burning resentment against you added to a desire to get ahold of your property.
     
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    We've seen this movie play out before with the Russian aristocrats after the revolution, German Jews, White farmers in Zimbabwe. Get out while the getting is good, to delay could be fatal. History has shown them the end game.
     
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    There is truth in what you say. However, the writing was on the wall for all to see. I would have left if possible—the Afrikaners are not militarily or politically powerful enough to overthrow the government; and even if they could, I doubt they are philosophically advanced enough to create a truly free nation.
     
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    You immigrated from SA to Australia!
    That explains a lot. :lol:

    When I moved from Ukraine to the US in early 00s I went to high school in MN where I had two classmates from SA - beautiful tall girls. I met them in 11th or 12th grade. Great sense of humor and good personalities. I hope they are doing well, we didn’t stay in touch. I didn’t realize their parents were running from black oppression.

    I thought that you are fixated on SA for no reason, but apparently it’s your home.
    It is sad to see your home country degrading. Those who can leave should leave. Many Afrikaners are welcome around the globe. No need to stick around just to be robbed, raped or killed. No land is worth that. Just run and try your luck elsewhere.
     
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    I hope you are not still living there.
     
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    Sometimes you have to cut your losses and run for your life. When this mob took over the country whites should have seen the writing on the wall of maybe they should have fought to the death or fought for victory. Either way too late now. Get out while you can.
     
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    sentimental over property & belongings is, as it's root suggests, mental...
     
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    Well anything can happen I suppose, our present age is proof enough of that, but I don't see much chance of winning a political battle to partition the country. An actual military solution may be possible, but the cost will be extremely high.
     
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    Let the starvation begin.
     
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    It doesn't matter where they go in Africa.

    They will be hunted and killed even if they somehow carve out "their own country".

    I'd like to know how that's going to be possible in the first place, as all the land is claimed by other countries as far as I can tell.

    Granted, SA is not exactly an area of expertise for me.
     
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    Wrog, they go USA now. Germany blocked the Med route. Now th africans go to a softer target. USA

    https://qz.com/africa/1650646/more-african-migrants-are-trying-to-enter-us-via-mexico/
     
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    We should immediately send them a lifetime supply of black shoe polish!
     
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    Yes I was actually referring a bit "tongue in cheek" to this incident

    https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...d/news-story/26b8e90fa8746bf4e9501a0eba4ca82e
     

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