Illegal land grabs spreading across South Africa

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  1. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    I'm not quite interested enough in this topic to watch lengthy videos on it (I skipped Lauren Southern's video on it, too), but I'm curious if you think the Afrikaaners have enough men and weaponry to fight a successful fight for independence. I'm thinking a) too many people have left already; b) the government now has all the military weaponry at its disposal; and c) South Africa never was known for its liberal gun control policy, so not many white South Africans have arms. And then how many British-descended South Africans can you get to join the Afrikaaners, and would they even be welcome?
     
  2. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Apartheid was a homeland system to provide South Africa's tribes with the capability to keep their culture intact and educate their own people in their own language and cultures.. within their homelands. Bantu education came under attack when certain subjects like for example science were taught in Afrikaans.... science could not be translated into Bantu languages... since they simply had no scientific background to work with, the reason for teaching that particular subject in Afrikaans.

    This system of keeping culture of course was a sin according the the globalists and multiculturalists who believe everyone is the same and cultural difference should be eliminated.

    When white people allowed blacks to enter their territory for work it was a mistake, you can't use labour and not allow them to partake in your political process (take note America with your cheap illegal migrant labour)... hospitals, schools, universities were being built for them by whites in their own territories... but white territories still had the highest production.... of course people like yourself immediately yell discrimination because I say whites are capable of higher productivity... I will again reiterate that I believe this difference to be grounded in the fact that the Black African is nomadic.

    Today however I doubt there are many... if any whites who want Apartheid back... it was far too much work keeping the peace between tribes and political factions like Inkatha and the ANC and I believe most whites just simply want to separate and go their own way.
     
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  3. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    We wait and see what happens, I have my own calculations on where this is going but in no way do I speak for anyone other than myself and I don't think making claims about a civil war or race war is helpful at this stage. For white South Africans stability is the best scenario and I believe this is what they will try to achieve in the short term.
     
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    So you can not prove a thing. How is that different from a conspiracy theorist?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm just sitting here watching Scarlett's facts bounce off your noggin.

    Don't mind me.
     
  6. xwsmithx

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    Well, my own calculation is that "stability" is a pipe dream at this point. The racial hatred among South African blacks is too strong at this point to "allow" white South Africans to keep what they have earned.
     
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    That South Africa is being hit by climate change, was in the news...
    http://theconversation.com/how-droughts-will-affect-south-africas-broader-economy-111378

    In the province more than R5 billion was lost to the economy, largely due to the drought. This matters for the country as a whole because the Western Cape contributes 22% to national agricultural GDP.
     
  8. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    what a convenient excuse climate change is, The ANC government have destroyed South Africa's environment and the only thing the mainstream media and leftists have to say is "Apartheid and Climate Change"

    Even if you ignore all the filth and rubbish in the streets, the ANC have and still is causing billions of litres of sewage every day to run into the ocean and waterways.

    Eskom the power utility that have been gutted by mismanagement and corruption are causing death and illness to many communities

    People Are Dying From Eskom’s Pollution in South Africa
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...south-africans-with-its-china-level-pollution


    The ANC wants to open a coal mine next to the Kruger National Park that will pollute the river for up to 300km's, killing animals and agriculture that depend on their water from the Krokodil River

    Outcry as Manzolwandle plans to start coal mine near Kruger
    https://013.co.za/2019/06/27/outcry-manzolwandle-plans-start-coal-mine-kruger/

     
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    Yeah.... that was actually deporting 3.5 million black people to places of no opportunities. That resulted that you white people got to own all the industrial area's, and best agricultural area's and residential area's. You lot than banned the black people to do business there. They did things just like in the US... "separate but equal". There was nothing equal about it.
     
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    Whites developed their own territory, why couldn't blacks do the same? Whites built hospitals, schools, Universities for blacks IN BLACK territories and still they came to white territories in search of work... and you just keep yelling racism :lol:

    Take for example the small town of Orania, whites bought the land for 1.5 million in 1991, no one put Universities, schools and hospitals up for them, but they developed Orania into a half a billion Rand settlement. Black people had every opportunity to develop their own homelands, but what is now crystal clear is that nomadic tribes simply do not possess the ability to build NOR maintain a civilisation. Why should you now hate white people because they possess this ability



     
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    You go source that the ANC controls the rain, champ. Here,... have an other source.
    https://ewn.co.za/2019/01/19/we-need-rain-urgently-grain-sa
     
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    Nope. White people made the black people develop their territory, and than you lot ethnically cleansed them out by the millions. Hence things are being reversed. As if you white people did hard labor when you could push around a bunch of black people to do it for a small tip.
     
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    I have mentioned the drought in this post (the last two words above the first graphic)

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ss-south-africa.559195/page-5#post-1070825953

    the drought however is only one of many problems facing South Africa's food production. At it's peak during apartheid South Africa had 70 000 commercial farmers that fed 100 million people (25 million in it's borders and 75 million outside) today there are 30 000 left (less than half)

    During the Apartheid years South Africa also had droughts... many times, drought is not a new development :lol: however farmers received drought assistance from government same as they do in other countries like Australia. Now with the ANC in government WHITE farmers receive NO drought assistance, this is why Agriculture is at the bottom of the economic growth pile... (refer graph in post mentioned above.)
     
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    Cheap labour, there are many countries in the world that use cheap labour for example UAE, America... even western countries import cheap labour like nannies, houseworkers etc.

    Cheap labour is not a crime it is a side effect of capitalism... supply and demand
     
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    Are the Germans more French than the Gauls?
     
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    And when these Israeli settler terrorists do the same with Palestinian land and build "overnight" an illegal settlement on property of a Palestinian, you are OK with it or are you same way shouting on these crimes?
     
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    Climate change is a new development

    White people in South Africa ethnically cleansed millions of black people, because they didn't like their skin color.
    And we all agreed.... that's a crime. That was an illegal land grab, and that is being undone.
     
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    This is something you need to ask South Africa's blacks who are necklacing other African blacks. They complain the foreign nationals are taking their jobs and instead of closing the border and deporting the 50 million that came in they are attacking and killing them.... I can sorta see why they don't deport 50 million people :lol:

    118 Nigerians killed in xenophobic attacks in South Africa – Lawan
    https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news...xenophobic-attacks-in-south-africa-lawan.html

    Nigeria have had protests against these killings in Nigeria and the Nigerian government have also taken the issue up with the South Afircan government. Of course it is not only Nigerians that are being killed
     
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    Yeah... go start a post with a personal attack, because you can not do any better.

    I'm not talking about drought. I'm talking about climate change.

    Yes there was. You white folks kicked out millions of black people to get your hands on the best stuff.

    http://www.overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/multimedia.php?id=65-259-6
    From 1960 to 1983, the apartheid government forcibly moved 3.5 million black South Africans in one of the largest mass removals of people in modern history.
     
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    There was no personal attack... I can't help it when you don't know what you are talking about

    Here's your history lesson for the day notme... specifically pointing to this part. What your source don't tell you is WHY WERE THESE PEOPLE MOVED. I will remind you Africa is a continent of plague, disease... Ebola... Aids. Today... after 25 years of black rule... South Africa is once again turning into a filthy slum

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Pandora-s-Apartheid-Box.pdf
     
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    This is typical liberal behaviour... victim mentality to try and shut debate down.
     
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    And I am telling you that drought didn't start with climate change....governments have always supported farmers during droughts.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/02/help-white-farmers-facing-the-drought-in-south-africa/
     
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    You mention 60.000 black people being moved from a site run by 1 person. And FYI district 6, was branded by you white folks on 11 February 1966 as a white area only, and so they kicked out all the black people. Your source even mentions that in the musea this is being called forcible removed.

    And I'm not talking about 60.000 black people. I'm talking about millions and millions.
     
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    I'm going to start reporting these ethnic cleansing posts since you provide NO EVIDENCE. 'these are false claims aimed at inciting violence and hatred
     
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    I have given you a very detailed post with historical detail, clearly you have not bothered to read it, you simply continue to make false claims and as I have just posted before I am going to start reporting them based on inciting hatred against white South Africans
     
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