I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

Then you should've said SOME women.

I agree and I have never once said that they do not have the right to their own bodies.

 

An aunt of yours lived in the 40's? Damn, you must be quite an age. You just seemed at least under 30.

 

I guess I have to be very specific for those who have no point.

Yes, but do you want to take away that right by banning abortion?

 

OMG..... I had aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents from the 16th century living here.....I guess you think that makes me 400 years old.....


There's that generation that thinks there was no world, no history, and nothing happened until the Blessed Day THEY were Born....

 

You are the one hung up on the issue I simply corrected you by saying that it depends on the definition.

If you play the kindergarten game - "which one is not like the other" - which shows 3 pictures and the child chooses with thing is not like the other - the silliness of your claim is easily understood.

If you show a picture of a zygote a heart cell and a man. Obviously it is the man.

If you show a picture of a zygote a monkey and a man. Obviously it is the zygote.

It is not easy to see the differences between the zygote and the cell. It is easy to see the difference between a zygote and a human.

You are the one that seems to have a huge problem understanding what qualifies as an organism and what qualifies as a cell - and you have completely failed even to provide definition in support of your silly claim.

Then when I provided a definition for your - you ran screaming "NO NO NO" to the playground to stick head deep in the sandbox of denial.

 

Whether or not we kill bricklayers has nothing to do with whether or not a zygote is a human. It is your analogy/ false dichotomy that is nonsense on steroids.

1) might produce a human ... most zygotes do not make it.
2) a heart cell has the "potential" to create a human .. just not sans human intervention
3) I agree that the value of the zygote - with respect to this potential - is greater

4) The problem is that you have not demonstrate why this potential to create a living human = should give the zygote rights, including the right to life on the same level as an actual living human.

 

No your aunt/uncle is your parents siblings. That makes you old as hell if they are grown ups in the 40s.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
OMG..... I had aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents from the 16th century living here.....I guess you think that makes me 400 years old.....


There's that generation that thinks there was no world, no history, and nothing happened until the Blessed Day THEY were Born....

Thank you for confirming the last sentence of the post of mine you quoted.

I am sorry you never heard of grandparents, great grandparents, great , great grandparents, great aunts and great uncles...etc.


See, we all started a long time ago with ancestors....our relatives that came before us.

And it's " ..your aunt/uncle ARE your parents siblings.""



Now, do you want to discuss the topic or just spew more irrelevant crap?


Even that ridiculous idea that women who have abortions are trying to avoid their periods, although loony, is at least on topic (sort of).

 

If you had reading comprehention, you would know that I clearly stated that people were having abortions (of pregnancies) to avoid periods. So that they could be in a constant state of pregnant with out a child and with out having to suffer the period.

Twisting my words is really childish for someone who is ancient. Everyone in my school in Blue MD was pro life, boys and girls meaning that this joke of a made up right will be illegal again soon.

If you to old to be parent people don't stop forcing your way of life on us, then you will leave no choice but for myself to fight in the House to get a bill passed removing the ability to strike down domestic legislation federal or state from the juridiction of the courts. Since it is NOT in the constitution, and force the states to pass an amendment for it.

 

Here it is and NO "twisting" involved:

Sackeshi said: ↑
So if your kids (assuming you didn't murder them all) were out late and you wanted to see what they brought you would accept the I threw the receipt away excuse and not force them to take responsibility?

Probably pointless since you apparently went for the world record for most abortions, using then to avoid periods for your convenience."""""""""""



HOW does having abortions avoid having periods?

SEE, after an abortion a person is no longer pregnant so will have their period.

WHY are you trying so hard to embarrass yourself further !!????


If one wanted to be in a constant state of pregnancy they wouldn't get an abortion...


And it is ASSinine to think women get pregnant to avoid having their period.

Blah! That's just more barely literate gibberish , like telling me to go to the mall and have lunch, it's looneytunes…!!!!

 

Which "analogy/false dichotomy" is that?

Exactly, not natural.

I don't think that. I've never actually thought about it.

 

LOL. So obviously she wasn't one of your parents sister's. When you said "aunt" I assumed that you meant DIRECT aunt.

 

I don't believe that banning abortion would take away that right, because I don't believe abortion is a female bodily rights matter.

 

What you "believe" is nonsensical!

The government should just pass a law that requires all males must be castrated because they have no "bodily rights" according to YOU!

 

Then you clearly don't understand the matter......and after all this time I doubt you will...

 

That last sentence was in response top """4) The problem is that you have not demonstrate why this potential to create a living human = should give the zygote rights, including the right to life on the same level as an actual living human."""


You never thought about it! Uh, this IS the Abortion Forum....banning abortion IS giving the zygote rights and superior rights that no one else has.

 

Its time for a serious compramise. You guys support a judge who will criminalise abortion, and then we get a judge that is anti gun. Win win

 

Gun rights have nothing to do with abortion......let me know when you want to talk about the real world instead of your fairy tale nonsense..

 

What? I want guns banned so that compromise would be good for me on both fronts

 

I'm not suggesting that the government should pass a law that requires that all pregnant females must give birth!

 

Not unless abortion was banned during the zygote stage.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
banning abortion IS giving the zygote rights and superior rights that no one else has.

Oh for FS! You really have nothing to say so quit saying it...

 

Than what EXACTLY did you mean by this:

 

I meant exactly what I said. I don't believe abortion is a female bodily rights matter. If abortion was made illegal, I don't believe that it would be taking their rights away, it would ONLY take an option away.

 

Do you think that a fetus has any more value than a zygote?