Impeachment 2.0: This is how Trump incited a violent coup.

The question was how did Trump cause a riot that began before his speech ended. You have me some crap about him watching it on TV after the speech was over. You know what half the world was doing.

 

Didn't make them do anything since they didn't hear it being to far away...

 

ONCE AGAIN.....

At around 2:00 p.m........after returning to the White House, Trump Tweeted;

"Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution''

At around 2:15 p.m.

Senator Lankford was interrupted, and Congress went into recess as rioters broke windows and got inside the building.

Question; Did Trump's Tweet "Pence didn't have the courage....''

Enraged the protesters? Of course!

Made them shout ''Hang Mike Pence'' Of course!

 

Alea iacta est

 

The riot began at 1:45

 

Wrong!

Timeline of the U.S. Capitol Attack on January 6, 2021

Video shows;

Just before 1:00 pm, rioters clash with Capitol police as they breach barricades

2:00 pm, rioters force entry into Capitol building by smashing windows, and attacking police

2:00 pm, police evacuate congressional offices, and Library of Congress

2:20 pm, both Chambers go into recess, and U.S. Capitol goes into lockdown



AND LIKE I SAID,

At around 2:00 p.m........after returning to the White House, Trump Tweeted;

"Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution''

At around 2:15 p.m.

Senator Lankford was interrupted, and Congress went into recess as rioters broke windows and got inside the building.

Question; Did Trump's Tweet "Pence didn't have the courage....''

Enraged the protesters? Of course!

Made them shout ''Hang Mike Pence'' Of course!

 

More timeline......

Trump's Save America Speech around noon

7 days ago — A day to gather in Washington to “save America” and “stop the steal” of the ... Then, at noon, Mr. Trump began to deliver a speech to his excited.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/capitol-mob-trump-supporters.html


Duration of his speech; 1 hour and 14 mins

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

By the time Trump finished his speech, around 1:14pm, crowds had already started to gather outside the Capitol building

Distance between Ellipse Park to Capitol building; 8 min (1.7 mi) via Constitution Ave. NW

https://www.google.com/search?q=dis...0l2j69i65l2.3891j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

How long it takes to walk 1 mile? 15 to 20 minutes........The average walking speed of a human is 3 to 4 miles per hour, or 1 mile every 15 to 20 minutes

Thus, 1.7 miles; approx. 30 mins

Time protesters started walking toward the Capitol during Trump's speech; around 12:30 p.m., thus approx. 30 minutes after Trump started his Save America speech.

 

Let's continue.....

Once again, Trump's Save America Speech started around noon, and here were his words at around 12:16 p.m.;

Donald Trump: (16:25)

Our media is not free. It’s not fair. It suppresses thought. It suppresses speech, and it’s become the enemy of the people. It’s become the enemy of the people. It’s the biggest problem we have in this country. No third world countries would even attempt to do what we caught them doing and you’ll hear about that in just a few minutes. Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer, and we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. We’re going to have to fight much harder and Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. If he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our constitution. Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

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AND like I said, protesters started walking toward the Capitol building/during Trump's speech at around 12:30 p.m.

 

Impeachment 2.0: This is how Trump incited a violent coup.

I find it interesting how the left creates a lie, spreads it among the faithful and then repeats it over and over and over. The hope, I assume the idea is to repeat it enough that people accept it as the truth. I don't see the tactic working very well however. Maybe it does with some people, just not any that I know.

 

What lie was created?

Also, the 10 Republican Reps who voted to impeach, are they leftists?

Example;

Rep John Katko

“To allow the President of the United States to incite this attack without consequence is a direct threat to the future of our democracy. For that reason, I cannot sit by without taking action,” he said in a statement.

 

Let's continue.....

Rep Liz Cheney; “There has never been a greater betrayal by a president of the United States of his office and his oath to the constitution.”

Rep Anthony Gonzalez; “When I consider the full scope of events leading up to January 6th including the president’s lack of response as the United States Capitol was under attack, I am compelled to support impeachment,” he wrote on Twitter

Rep Peter Meijer; “The president betrayed his oath of office by seeking to undermine our constitutional process, and he bears responsibility for inciting the violent acts of insurrection last week,” he said in a statement.

Rep Dan Newhouse; “There is no excuse for President Trump’s actions,” he said.

Rep Adam Kinzinger; Trump “used his position in the executive” branch to attack the legislative branch, said Kinzinger, who is in his sixth term representing northern Illinois.

Rep Fred Upton; in November said Trump had shown no proof of his claims that his election defeat was the result of widespread fraud.

Upton said he would have preferred a bipartisan, formal censure rather than impeachment, but that Trump’s refusal to take responsibility for the riot left him no choice.

“The Congress must hold President Trump to account and send a clear message,” he said.

Rep Jaime H. Beutler; said that the president’s offenses were “impeachable based on the indisputable evidence we already have”.

Herrera Beutler, who is in her sixth term, said that while many lawmakers fear Trump, “truth sets us free from fear. My vote to impeach a sitting president is not a fear-based decision,” she said. “I am not choosing a side. I’m choosing truth.”

Rep Tom Rice; I have backed this president through thick and thin for four years. I’ve campaigned for him and voted for him twice. But this utter failure is inexcusable,” Rice said in a statement after the vote.

Rice said he was disappointed that Trump has failed to show remorse over the riot or address the nation to ask for calm

Rep David Valadao; said that Trump “was, without question, a driving force in the catastrophic events that took place on January 6 by encouraging masses of rioters to incite violence on elected officials, staff members, and our representative democracy as a whole”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/13/republicans-donald-trump-impeached-house

NOTE: In the minds of Trump's loyalists, all above-mentioned Republican Reps who voted to impeach, are now LIARS, and LEFTISTS.

 

The lie was the Trump incited a riot. He supported a protest that turned into a riot through no fault of his. The republicans aren't leftists but they certainly repeated the lie.

 

No they aren't. They are morons who can't read and think straight.

 

After January 19th, the Senate will decide.......2/3rd majority needed to impeach, thus, let's say 50 Democrats, 2 Independents, and 15 Republicans.

 

We shall see. I don't predict the future as well as you do.

 

Synonym of incite;

stir up. whip up, work up, encourage, fan the flames of, stoke up, fuel, kindle, ignite, inflame, stimulate, instigate, provoke, arouse, excite, inspire, trigger, spark off, agitate, generate, cause, bring about, induce, influence,

 

Are you saying the President of the United States was not informed that extremist groups that supported him had been planning the riot since December last year? Just like they are planning one for this Saturday, and another for January 20? That would be the "too uniformed to be held accountable" argument.

Which is necessarily accompanied by "he didn't know that using incendiary language would result in incendiary behavior". Also known as the "too stupid to be held accountable" argument.

BTW, for tomorrow and on January 20, it's not enough to put out a memo saying "Please keep it peaceful". He needs to show up! Show up, talk directly to his mob, and do everything in his power to convince his followers to stop the violence. It's his job! If he can't do it, he needs to resign. So let's hope we don't hear the "too incompetent to be held accountable" argument

 

Oh good it started even earlier way before Trump finished his speech. So yep no causation by Trump.

 

Examples;

1. Several times, Trump called Secretary Raffensperger "an enemy of the people''

2. He accused Mr Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, of shredding ballots and engaging in criminal acts that cost him the election. He called the disproven allegations "a criminal offence," adding that it presents "a big risk to you"

3. Trump claimed Raffensperger hid tens of thousands of illegal votes.

4. He called Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “clowns” and amplified a supporter who said the two “will soon be going to jail.”

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Results;

........Georgia’s secretary of state and his staff have evacuated their offices at the state Capitol as armed protesters gathered outside.

.........Caravans of horn-honking Trump supporters constantly parade past Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger's private residence

.........His wife has reportedly received sexually explicit threats

.........Secretary of State Raffensperger and his wife received death threats

 

Quote: Oh good it started even earlier way before Trump finished his speech.

That's correct!

AND ONCE AGAIN, at around 2 p.m.

Trump tweeted; "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution''............IN OTHER WORDS; Trump's last hope to overturn the election results FAILED!

AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE SAID TWEET; stir up. whip up, work up, encourage, fan the flames of, stoke up, fuel, kindle, ignite, inflame, stimulate, instigate, provoke, arouse, excite, inspire, trigger, spark off, agitate, generate, cause, bring about, induce, influence............MORE VIOLENCE, and protesters began shouting; ''Hang Mike Pence''

 

Very good! For anyone but a bluntie this would constitute a solid case.

Now let's add one other element to that...... social media. Most of us have been in lockdown for months with this pandemic, and in our solitude we have entertained ourselves with social media. But look for a moment at the context. There has been a complete absence of intelligent, insightful, high-level guidance from our unhinged, abusive, sociopathic "president". So all we had to look to for guidance has been our social media and the "safe" sources of "facts" they guide us to accept.

Social media has become THE major influence on many. And what is social media but a magnifier of insanity and false theories?

And there it is: insanity from the president and magnification of insanity by social media. That is our context.

If we find our way out of all this before the USA completely implodes, we will have to regulate social media very well to prevent this from being a problem in the future.

 

Here's the timeline for you....not that you will believe it, of course. This covers your timeframe.

Insurrection Timeline: First the Coup and Then the Cover-Up
~snip~

8:17 a.m.: Trump tweets: “States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!”

Noon: Trump begins to address the mob and continues speaking for more than 90 minutes.

• “We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”

• “We won this election, and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.”

• “I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so, because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people.”

1:00 p.m.: While Trump continues his rant to the mob, some members of Trump’s crowd have already reached the US Capitol building where Congress assembles in joint session to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. An initial wave of protesters storms the outer barricade west of the Capitol building. As the congressional proceedings begin, Pence reads a letter saying that he won’t intervene in Congress’s electoral count: “My oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority.”

1:10 p.m.: Trump ends his speech by urging his followers to march down Pennsylvania Avenue. “We’re going to the Capitol. We’re going to try and give them [Republicans] the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country… If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

The Attack

If the District of Columbia were a state, its governor alone could have deployed the National Guard to crush the riot. Instead, Trump and his Defense Department had that responsibility, and an unprecedent assault on a sacred institution of government succeeded, if only for a few hours.

(DoD Memo) 1:26 p.m.: The Capitol Police orders the evacuation of the Capitol complex.

1:30 p.m.: The crowd outside the building grows larger, eventually overtaking the Capitol Police and making its way up the Capitol steps. Suspicious packages – later confirmed to be pipe bombs – are found at Republican National Committee headquarters and Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington.

(DoD Memo) 1:34 p.m.: DC Mayor Muriel Bowser asks Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy – who reports to Miller – for more federal help to deal with the mob.

Bowser is told that the request must first come from the Capitol Police.

(DoD Memo) 1:49 p.m.: The Capitol Police chief asks the commanding general of the DC National Guard for immediate assistance.

*Also at 1:49 p.m.: Trump retweets a video of the rally, which includes his previous statements that: “our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you came up with, we will stop the steal. . . You’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”

*Shortly after 2:00 p.m.: While the senators are in a temporary holding room after the Senate chamber is evacuated, Trump tries to call Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL), but mistakenly reaches Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), who hands the phone to Tuberville. Trump then tries to convince Tuberville to make additional objections to the Electoral College vote in an effort to block Congress’ certification of Biden’s win. The call is cut off because senators are asked to move to a secure location.

2:15 p.m.: Trump’s mob breaches the Capitol building – breaking windows, climbing inside, and opening doors for others to follow.
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Yup that is the party line. I have no idea what information Trump had and neither do you. If he had what you say neither you nor I know if he believed it. It devolves into opinion rather than fact. Sorry.

 

Thank you. The legal definition is more complicated than synonyms.