Impeachment 2.0: This is how Trump incited a violent coup.

I, and everybody who is not a Trump "core loyalist" (the more adequate expression is not allowed in this forum) knows without a single doubt that Trump knew about all the planning by his extreme right groups to violently take over the Capitol to stop the Democratic process and instead force Congress to declare him the winner. Not only because he receives "intelligence" briefings every day, but because it was being planned in the groups that he often re-tweets. But his loyalists get to play the "disingenuous" game to defend "The Idol".

 

"18 U.S. Code § 2102.Definitions
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(b) As used in this chapter, the term “to incite a riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts."
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Doesn't sound that different to me.

 

According to several sources, Trump tweeted; ''Mike didn't have the courgage......'' approx. one hour after Pence released his statement, thus, around 2 p.m.

Several unanswered questions;

Approx. 8 minutes into his speech, Trump stated;

.........and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing.

Donald Trump: (08:09)

I hope so. I hope so because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do. This is from the number one or certainly one of the top constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our constitution, and protect our constitution. States want to revote. The States got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice-President Pence has to do is send it back to the States to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people.

Donald Trump: (09:08)

I just spoke to Mike. I said, “Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage,” and then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot, and we have to live with that for four more years

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Reference to ''I JUST SPOKE TO MIKE''........thus, shortly before noon;

Question # 1; Did Pence told Trump; He won’t intervene in Congress’s electoral count?

Answer; If so, certainly not an info Trump would reveal during his 70 mins speech, and IMO, I hope, IF Mike, IF Mike means; Trump knew, but ''Let's keep hope alive'' so to speak.

 

Let's continue.....

Approx. 17 mins into his speech, Trump stated;

''After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down''

I'll BE THERE WITH YOU

Question; What changed his mind?

Answer; Most likely, after Trump ended his speech, around 1:15 p.m., someone told/advised him; "Not a good idea'', and that explains why Trump opted to go back to the White House, and watched Fox Live.

 

He didn't want a riot. He wanted a protest. Nothing in his words or behavior supported violence. Anything else?

 

If it was planned, then it wasn't Trump that started it. Common sense. This whole argument is one of the dumbest things I have read about politics this year. But it is entertaining.

 

Show me the actual tweet...

 

Yet there is no evidence that any of the maga crowd left before the speech ended. In fact a lot of evidence suggests that the two events weren't connected. Including first hand accounts that from many maga folk that they started to go to the the capitol saw the bruhaha and went back to their hotel rooms.

 

Nonsense! He wanted them to stage a coup for them! There is no such thing as a "peaceful coup".

Besides the quotes on the OP. Here are two more.

"We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore."

"You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong,"

The only place in which, not only this speech, but everything he wrote and said since December, is not a call to violence; is in the minds of the hardest hard core loyalist among Trump supporters (for which there is a shorter word that I am not allowed to use)

 

Predictable as usual.

 

Playing dumb?

Donald Trump’s Tweets have now disappeared from Twitter

The suspension means that Trump’s tens of thousands of prior tweets are out of public view on Twitter. Retweets of the president’s messages are gone from the forwarding user’s timelines, and quote tweets are replaced with the message “This Tweet is unavailable.”



In addition, you posted in this thread on Monday;


WOKE to BROKE? CNBC’s Warns Twitter Could Be in Trouble as Stock Plummets: After Trump Ban

..........Twitter shares dropped sharply on Monday after the company went full German Socialist Style Censorship and permanently suspended
President Donald Trump’s account.

YOUR POST; Trump isn't the only one they dropped.......

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In addition to the above, TWICE I've exposed your manure, thus, who else has been changing your diapers?

 

As I thought. Since you don't have the actual tweet you are just misquoting for fun and games.

 

Your thread says "this is how" and none of the quotes come close to "calls for violence".

 

When did Trump call for this violence? The FBI received a warning at least a day ahead of all this that there would be violence.
FBI report contradicts official's declaration that agency did not have prior intelligence Capitol riot would turn violent (yahoo.com)

 

Well, if lying to a large group of people bothers you, you must hate Donald Trump.

"The only way democrats can win is if they rig the election" which Trump said at many rallies, before the first ballot was cast.

Apparently, you like liars.

 

I want to read your threads, but you kind of lost credibility in my opinion when you made a thread earlier stating "Antifa is made up by the GOP"
That will be on the internet FOREVER and I might even make it part of my signature to give it more lasting power. He said PEACEFULLY. stop trying to twist it. We can see right through it

 

Quote: Yet there is no evidence that any of the maga crowd left before the speech ended.

No evidence?????????

Nevada lawmaker feels backlash for attending Trump’s March to Save America rally

The Ellipse is a 52 acre park near the White House in Washington, DC where Trump held his March to Save America rally. Black said she couldn’t get close enough to hear Trump speak, but word was, he would also be going to the Capitol to deliver a speech from the Capitol steps, so she went there to get a good spot, ahead of the crowd. Black was at the barricade when Trump zealots stormed the Capitol complex.

“We ended up over at the Capitol on the east side at around 11:30. And someone had on their phone the President was speaking and they had their megaphone, so they put their cell phone by the megaphone, and we listened to the speech there. And everything was fine. It was a group with their kids that seemed like some parents and some older teenagers. Really great group of people, families, and we all just kind of hung out there from I would say, we were there from 11:30 probably ‘til two o’clock is when, around two o’clock is when that barrier went down and things started to go crazy. So we were very close. I would say we were no more than 20 to 40 feet away from the barrier.”

https://sierranevadaally.org/2021/0...attending-trumps-march-to-save-america-rally/

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NOTE; Her reason for walking to the Capitol BEFORE Trump's speech ended; She went there to get a good spot, ahead of the crowd.....................MAKE SENSE TO ME!

Mr. Garyd, this evidence is your third X

Are there anymore pooh pooh in your diaper?

 

Not worth a comment.

 

Looks like Trump has learned some lesssons from the democrats. You got one thing right. Coups are always violent. Good thing this wasn't a coup.

 

Trump is a master propagandist, and every above average intelligent people know that.

FOR EXAMPLE;

Transcript of Trump/Guthrie's Town Hall

Savannah Guthrie: (20:20)
Just this week, you retweeted to your 87 million followers, a conspiracy theory that Joe Biden orchestrated to have SEAL Team Six, the Navy SEAL Team Six, killed to cover up the fake death of Bin Laden. Now, why would you send a lie like that to your followers?

President Trump: (20:35)
I know nothing about it, can I [crosstalk 00:20:36]-

Savannah Guthrie: (20:35)
You retweeted it.

President Trump: (20:38)
That was a retweet. That was an opinion of somebody-

President Trump: (20:41)
…. and that was a retweet. I’ll put it out there. People can decide for themselves. I don’t take a position.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-nbc-town-hall-transcript-october-15

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NOTE: Trump.....''I’ll put it out there. People can decide for themselves. I don’t take a position"

WELL, here's another example of ''I’ll put it out there. People can decide for themselves. I don’t take a position"

AT AROUND 2 pm......Trump tweeted;

"Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country"

RESULT; "Hang Mike Pence''

 

Pretty soon we will start passing laws about Twitter. None of them will affect me.

 

I mean, even when he asked if you could inject disinfectant to cure Covid they believed him when he later claimed to have been being sarcastic.

 

Who believed him?

 

Does the evidence support that given all the internet chatter among the mob he assembled about violence and bringing weapons to DC?
Why didn't he diffuse the situation during the rally and tell the mob the truth.............he lost the election fair and square.