IMPEACHMENT is a Badge of Honor

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    I have to wonder what planet Liberals have been living on for the last 8 years to think Obama has done a good job fighting ISIS and keeping us safe. By doing so, he has caused the murder of tens of thousands of others. How intelligent is he when he calls ISIS Jr. Varsity and sits back and allows them to take over almost half of Iraq, doing little to stop them till American heads are chopped off and public pressure made him make token attacks against them? With our planes coming back with 75% if their armaments because of restrictions Obama put on them? How smart is he to think Russia and Iran would stand back and do nothing while he try's to take out Assad, their biggest Allie in the Middle East? How smart is he to take out the government of Libya at a time we never had better relations with them and then just walk away and let it fall to terrorist and ISIS. Who then attacked our embassy and killed the Ambassador and three others? We had no one to call for help for them then. Why didn't he send help, or at least pull them out like most of the other nations did with their embassies? How smart was he to back stab Egypt's President Mubarak? We were only saved from that fiasco by the Egyptian Army. He has most of the Middle East hating him. His actions in the Middle East has caused the death of tens of thousands and caused millions of Muslim refugees and terrorist to invade Europe which will never be the same again. His actions will effect the world forever. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had appealed to the US and the international community for more weapons to help in its fight against pro-Russian ...
    He asked Obama for weapons to defend his country and Obama gave him blankets, uniforms and night vision glasses. No weapons. Ukraine President said you can't fight a war with blankets. The man has been a disaster to the world and you people are praising him?
     
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    It was Trump's daughter that got Trump to start day care help for single, low wage parents. It was also her and Trump that started retraining help for those Americans with little skills. It was both that are pushing for family leave. But I know the Left would die before giving Trump any credit.
     
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    the facts that indicate Trump is a good president will also be recorded.
     
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    Obama refused to give Ukraine weapons to defend their self even when Russia was attacking them. Biden held up funds to get investigators off his Son's money bag. No one is saying anything about that.Why? Never said anything about not giving Kurds or Jordan weapons to help fight ISIS. The Left can do anything and get away with it.
     
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    Obama was the worse president ever. But then he was a Kenyan, not a real American. He divided us as no other president. He welcomed illegal immigrants into our country so that more people would vote for Democrats. Our economy was booming under Bush, with all of his tax cuts and deregulation. Then Obama crashed the economy and we all lived in near poverty, the country literally falling apart at the seams. That is until the great Donald Trump cast his golden shadow a cross the land and made us all so fabulously wealthy.

    Obama was so weak abroad, and his character so lacking that all the other countries took advantage of us and laughed at how low the US had become. He even let homosexuals get married, just destroying the moral foundations of our country. And he is such a Muslim that he funded all the Islamic terror groups. He even gave Iran billions of dollars to use on terrorist attacks against Christians.

    If it wasn’t for the resistance of real Americans Obama would have taken our guns away and subjected us to death panels.

    The worse thing about Obama was how divisive he was, how he was always condemning the white man, how he was always lying, always getting caught in one corrupt act after another, trampling the constitution at every chance he could. Good thing Trump beat Obama in the election and returned our country to a place real Americans can be proud.
     
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    Trump was impeached for soliciting. Zelensky has no motivation to do anything but follow Trump’s lead. Giuliani has been spending a lot of time in the Ukraine, ensuring the story stays in line.
     
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    And to make matters much worse you have fellow Catholic
    and lead MSNBC toadie Chris Matthews adding his 2 sinful cents worth
    by highlighting how truly Ritual-like Pelosi is after she insisted how
    " prayerful " she be.Talk about Devils-talk.That Pelosi treats this
    Articles signing as if some Religious Catholic Ritual.As if thoughtful
    and considerate and somber.The Speaker was doing everything in her
    power to not break out in hysterics with her Obvious GIDDINESS.
    These people { Pelosi and Matthews } are just evil.This is how Catholics
    who are of the Democrat persuatiuon ply their trade.
    No better than Simoniacs during Martin Luther's day.Where the selling
    of Indulgences bought one out of Hell.
     
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    Right, make fun. But if your willing to take each one by it's self, I'll show you the truth. Yes he had a bad economy. He inherited it from the housing fiasco. His policies created a lot of jobs. Just that most weren't very good jobs. Here, most all these sources are far Left. Nothing from Fox or far Right.

    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.

    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    As I showed, also using Far Left sources. Obama couldn't raise the economy as high in eight years as Trump did in his first year and he tripled it in his third year.
     
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    Both Mark Levin and Dennis Prager have gone on record with
    their Talk Radio shows saying this President { Donald J. Trump }
    is by far the Best President in their life.They prove it with President's
    Trump's accommplishments.Especially Israel.
    Now with boxing-in Iran which no President the past 40 years
    has been able to achieve.
     
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    I still need an answer as to why Barack Obama was NEVER interviewed
    or seriously questioned about what his activities consisted of the night
    of the Benghazi Attack.All we were informed is that Obama got briefed by
    Panetta around 5 pm and then retired early.Talk about lame.For hours there
    was an intense exchange with Terrorist as 4 americans were virtually
    begging for help and Fighting for their lives.Where was Obama.?
    This is actually unbelievable.To wish that night away as if some fairy tale.
    That is his how both Democrats and this piggish Mainstream Media do
    Americans.Like how Obama's IRS treated Conservatives.
     
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    Much of what you say has become correct. Candidate Trump shared many points I felt were very important. Especially the need for stronger border security, judges that followed the constitution, support of the second amendment, and reduction in the size of government. I thought he would enter office and get much done. Oh, ya, He wasn't another Clinton.
    Not enough time to express my disappointment with Paul Ryan and the first two years of his presidency. Plenty of time to thank Mitch McConnell and the 187 judges so far put on the bench mot to mention the two SC justices. Sad about the overactive spending but buoyed by the fact much of it was to repair the military that Obama gutted during his eight years in office.
    Now we have a circus and we need go no further than yesterdays two by two march to sign the articles of impeachment all wrapped up with special pens engraved with Nancy Pelosi's name on a silver platter.
    So if you think I now enjoy President Trump's mocking and trolling the democrats and the "media", you are 100% correct.
    Go President Trump, keep trolling the press, some members of congress, Hollywood "starz", and those who repeatedly post so many hateful OP's on political forums all over Al Gores internet.
     
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    His ability to do so was because of where the economy was by the time he took office, which happened under Obama's watch. You can't credit Trump for the economy without also crediting Obama.

    But in reality, you shouldn't be crediting presidents with the economy much at all, no matter who they are.
     
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    Mike my friend, you are 100% correct. The democrats have failed at everything they have tried and now, much like the Kavanaugh hearings, "last minute" witnesses need be called. Their playbook is worn out and the Hallmark channel viewership surpasses CNN and MSNBS combined audience on a daily basis.
    For now, let us enjoy watching their machinations fall apart.
     
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    So you are calling him a liar.

    Thought so.
     
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    It's all about how people think. Most people think of themselves as "smart". Most don't want to be wrong. But those who choose to tell themselves what they want to hear are unable to keep focus, to keep in touch with reality. Facts aren't chosen or made up to suit yourself. Only the left thinks that works. Facts are things like the long list of gains Trump has brought, from trade deals to the stock market records that continue to build. You look at the eggshell and tell us about the terrible damage.... Trump is serving up the omelettes. It's a mental thing; people have to learn to think beyond themselves. Some never will.

    Watcha gonna do when
    (1) The impeachment falls flat, like every other scam the dems fed you as legit...
    (2) The economy continues to roll on, and records continue to fall...
    (3) November gets here, and Trump wins again... and the House rolls over too....
    (4) Indictments start rolling in on the conspirators being investigated right now...

    I know. You will just keep telling yourself how terrible things are and how Trump did it to you.
     
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    Your criminal IMPOTUS inherited the economy from Obama just as Obama inherited the GOP 2008 economic collapse from the Bush/Cheney regime.

    Furthermore historians look at more than just the economy when determining the EFFECTIVENESS of occupants of the Oval office.

    The SHEER INCOMPETENCE of your criminal IMPOTUS is going to weigh heavily against him. Even Bush jr did a better job and he was a lousy president.

    Your IMPOTUS is being impeached for his CRIMES which means that he is going end up BELOW Nixon who historians note was at least a COMPETENT leader even if he was paranoid.

    You can try putting as much lipstick as you like on your orange swine but he still belongs in a sty!
     
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    You get credit for manning up about being wrong in this instance.

    :salute:

    The GOP did NOT have the votes to remove Clinton WITHOUT the Dems so it was a foregone conclusion that his impeachment was a political farce!
     
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    Just as this one is.
    The dems are tripping over their own dicks.
     
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    Obama had a lousy economy. He had about 11 million jobs, but many of them were bad. As for the economy, crashing, the Democrats were more responsible for that than Bush ever was. You need to get your facts strait and stop listening to all those Democratic lies.


    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.

    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    At least they are long enough to trip over unlike your criminal IMPOTUS's micro-wiener and the castrated GOP Senators.
     
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    25% of your criminal IMPOTUS's jobs pay BELOW poverty level income and he has UTTERLY FAILED to create ANY jobs paying living wages with benefits.

    FACTS matter!
     
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    The Left and their lack of a moral anchor could produce an attempt.

    The process in the House ironically paralleled the trial of a Black man in Louisiana in 1867.

    The poor fellow was accused of killing a store owner.
    There were three witnesses who were not allowed to testify because they were Black.
    The person who actually killed the store owner prosecuted the case.
    The prosecutor actually testified that he saw the Black man kill the store owner.
    The defense couldn't ask certain questions of the Black man because it was claimed that he was unable to tell the truth.


    So yes, I would not be surprised, because on top of it they have no shame.
     
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    Peleso puts all the blame on Bush and Republicans





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    The Ukrainian president has every reason to deny all of this because he still has to be the president of and deal with the politics within his own country on the other side of the world, far from the United States and it's influence. It makes him look like he's nothing but a beholden stooge to the President of the United States. He denies it for the same reason that Iran shot some missiles at our bases. They have to show that the United States does not tell them what to do.
     
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