In another 35 years there may be more muslims than Christians in the world

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  1. PatriotNews

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    Native Americans migrated from Asia.
     
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    My point apparently flew right over your head.
     
  3. JessCurious

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    Wars against Native Americans ended over a hundred years ago. Muslims murder people on a regular basis today.
     
  4. Paul7

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    And they were fighting each other constantly long before Europeans got here. The Aztecs killed hundreds of thousands of Indians via human sacrifice.
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    You're still trying to create a religious war. That's the problem, NOT a solution.

    American has some strong fundamental principles that apply everywhere, regardless of religion.

    We should be living up to those principles - rule of law, democracy, equality, etc.

    When we fail at that, we end up with Egypt shunning American ideas because of our actions before the revolution, creating recruits for OBL/et al by backing Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestine and showing we have no real interest in rule of law OR democracy, by conquering Iran and installing a religious extremist government that purposefully propagated a murderous civil war while moving toward Iran, by proving we won't stand by negotiated deals such as that with Iran, because we don't actually believe in the rule of law, by our actions in Afg and Libya where we had too little justification and no plan - leading to years of war, etc.

    We're pretending that might makes right and that our founding principles are garbage.

    Why? We KNOW that's a loser direction.
     
  6. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Bullsh-t.

    You cannot attempt to address a problem until you first admit one exists.

    The religion needs to be made public before anyone can even comment on it.

    You have muslims right here that don't know what the religion is about.
     
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  7. WillReadmore

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    Your claim that the problem is Islam is just not rationally supportable.

    The idea of creating war and conflict based on religious differences is just plain evil. There is NO justification for it.
     
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  8. Paul7

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    Islam has been at war with 'infidels' for 1400 years, save for a brief, now ended several hundred year interlude due to superior Western technology. You want to surrender, count me out.
     
  9. yasureoktoo

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    My claim is rationally supportable.

    That is why I want the religion on a panel, with scholars on both sides
    Getting to the bottom of the claims.
    On a public televised discussion.


    Please tell us why you don't want this.
    Why you don't want people to know what Islam is all about.
     
  10. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Ottoman sultan had to kill many to keep the empire under his submission.
     
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  11. WillReadmore

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    Islam is not attacking us.

    So, your idea of surrender is really kind of telling.
     
  12. Paul7

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    Dream on.
     
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    Islam is constantly attacking the west.
     
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    Nonsense.
     
  15. yasureoktoo

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    No, you are avoiding this entirely.
    I want the people to know what the religion of Islam is all about.

    It is not a contest, no comparison.

    Just the intentions of Islam.

    I want both sides to be present, so there is no mistakes.

    Even Muhammed himself, didn't want the non-believer knowing what the religion is all about.
    You are doing the same thing.

    Is there a reason for that.
     
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  16. WillReadmore

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    Yes. You see that there is one Islam (as defined by YOU) and that there is your hate for your definition of Islam.

    There is NO possibility that something such as that would help in ANY way.
     
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    That's bullsh-t.
    There are lots of Islam's, over 70 sects to be exact.
    But they all use the same Qur'an and sunnah,

    People need to know the documented version, and from there they can better address the different versions.
     
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    Leftist attempt to shut down debate by name calling noted. It may work other places, but not here.
     
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    This is actually a common Muslim attempt.

    Hide the documented version, Don't let the kafir see it,
    and spew bullsh-t about what the religion is about.

    A muslim group can say, Islam is about collecting butterflys.
    And if you don't read the documented version, you are forced to believe him.

    But your words here explain exactly what is going on in the world.
    Don't let the west know what the religion is about.
     
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    CAIR does it all the time, and that noxious MN US Rep. from Palestine. Disagree with her, and why, you're a racist.

    A common Muslim lie swallowed by suckers is citing the peaceful verses of the Koran from when it was gaining power, as if it means anything today, and leaving out that those verses were abrogated by later violent passages that rule today.

    BTW, won't surprise me at all if the Notre Dame fire is a product of Islam.
     
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    This is actually called (Kitman", lying by omission)..

    Not to be confused with Taquyyia,
     
  22. WillReadmore

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    No they don't. They need to know the practiced version.

    All these ancient texts (certainly including the Bible) contain gods blessing wholesale slaughter, evangelizing the world, being the only legitimate law, etc., etc.
     
  23. yasureoktoo

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    Total BS, there are over 70 practiced versions, and they are killing each other.

    They need to learn the documented version, so they can better understand the practiced versions.

    A good example is ISIS.
    A Muslim can say they are not Muslims, they are twisting the religion.
    ( But don't read the religion, take my word for it.)

    But if a person reads the documented version,
    they will say, these people follow the religion closer than anyone else.
     
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    You are stating flat out that YOU are the one who knows Islam and that Muslims don't!!!
     
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    The Bible never sanctioned in the OT killing people simply because they worshipped a different God, as Islam has always done. Most of those were pagan nations hostile to Israel. Look what we did in Hiroshima.
     

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