In France, sex with an 11-year-old is legal—for now

”False” doesn’t do it credit. The title (the headlines and the quotes on which they’re based) are outright fraudulent lies for entirely political purposes. If anybody complaining now actually cared about protecting children from predators, they’d have addressed this fundamental flaw in French law years ago. If the attackers in these cases have been French, we wouldn’t have even heard about it at all.

 

They're obviously taking lessons from 'the church'. I mean, who better??

 

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Don't be too hard on him. He's only doing what Trump and the Republican Congress/Party were doing first. Basically, it's gotten to the point where they are using a sex scandal to distract us from a coming corruption trial. Utter and total MADNESS

 

Some people are just born followers. The best they can hope for is to churn the propaganda provided by more original thinkers.

Personally I'd love to know how he convinced himself that stripping a 14 year old down to her underwear, putting hands on her breasts & genitals & then getting her to put her hands on his genitals is somehow not a crime. Maybe that was an attempt at original thinking.

He's just trying to work out if he should keep trying to bluster & distract or try to pretend he didn't humiliate himself. Its funny either way.

 

I find Apache one of the more articulate of the far right militarists on here. He can actually make a good case for things sometimes and it's often in a quirky sort of out-of-the-box way that's convincing because it's so sneaky. Here it's just the material he's being given to work with. Nobody could make a good case for tolerating Moore and Trump is just making it worse. The Party should just cut its losses and toss Moore out, telling people to write in somebody else because they're not going seat him even if he is elected

 

I believe that you need parents’permission to marry a minor.

 

Put this on the context of forty years ago vs today. Elvis met and dated Priscilla when she was 14 and he was in the army. Back then it was accepted but if he did that now the **** would hit the fan!

 

The legal age was 16.

Why, then, it's okay to vote for good ol' Roy!

Let's turn back the clock 175 years.

Nah. Pedophile is for prepubescent ... below 14.

I think PERVERT fits. Alabama can elect Senator Pervert.

 

No !!! Lets base everything on what happened 40 years ago and what was common and accepted back in Alabama 40 years ago not what is accepted today in 2017.

The leftist revisionist do the same thing with the Civil War ignoring the historical facts that in 1860 Americans held their allegiance first to the sovereign state they lived in, not to the United States federal government.

 

Thirty-year-old men pressuring high school girls for sex wasn't okay with most people forty years ago.

The South blew it in 1860. There was no immediate threat they would lose their slaves, so there was plenty of time to declare independence at a later date. The Declaration of Independence: "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes..." There was no "cause" in 1860. The South was crying before it was hit.

BTW, there's nothing wrong with taking down statues of Confederate generals. It doesn't destroy history because history isn't statues, but is instead the study of what happened in the past. Historians don't moralize, they explain.

"I felt like anything rather than rejoicing at the downfall of a foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse." -- U.S. Grant, his feelings at Appomattox on Lee's surrender

 

I know it wasn't in California but I can't speak for Alabama can you ?

Saw some weird **** in Utah during the 1970's ...

 

Obvious that history has already been destroyed or you wouldn't see the American Taliban taking down statues.

Except for older Americans today who were not indoctrinated in revisionist history in our schools, most middle age and younger age Americans are completely clueless that America was a completely different America 158 years ago. That before the Great Rebellion (American Civil War) Americans held their loyalty to the state they were born in or lived in not to the United States. That's the way it was.

Gen. Kelley touched on this recently when asked about the Taliban taking down Confederate statues and the left had a total meltdown.

If you read President Lincolns personal papers he writes he was getting tired with what he called "radical Republicans" who were calling the South traitors. They weren't traitors but Americans who held their loyalty to their state just like as Lincoln held his loyalty to the state of Illinois.

All you have to do is look at the armies and regiments that were on the battlefields during the Civil War. The vast majority were state militias, state regiments and state volunteers. Very few were U.S. Army regiments.

The same was true with the armies that fought for the South. Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia is an example.

 

It wasn't illegal anywhere, but according to my wife who spent some of her formative years in Montgomery it wasn't okay there, either.

Oh, yeah--I live part of the year in British Columbia, Canada and they have the same crowd in Bountiful, BC.

 

I think it's muscle flexing by social liberals (note I didn't say "liberals" or "Democrats"). They control or strongly influence the politics of many Southern cities, have an antipathy to anyone who supported slavery, and want the statues gone.

I think Republicans are waking up to the danger of continuing to push anything remotely associated with slavery or racism. It's why they aren't pushing back hard on the issue.

I taught history for many years and I think you're wrong about how history is taught in public schools. The fight over statues doesn't really have anything to do with education.

I often used my Grant quote with students as part of an effort to answer students' questions about how people felt after the war.

I won't dispute the guy's knowledge about the military, but he is just getting people riled up. The statues will continue coming down in cities where many were erected 60-100 years ago.

A lot of people in the North wanted revenge, there's no doubt on that point. Lincoln would have had his hands full had he lived.

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"I felt like anything rather than rejoicing at the downfall of a foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse." -- U.S. Grant, his feelings at Appomattox on Lee's surrender

 

In related news, Donald Trump will now be spending more time in France.

 

If you read this...

http://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/80695

... you'll see that marriage age differences have been dropping for more than a century and few marriages even in the 1970s have much age difference.

The revisionists are seldom historians. All too often, revisionists on both ends of the political spectrum try to get school curriculums changed to reflect their personal biases and teachers are forced to resist their efforts.

You might note, too, that a lot of historians are conservatives. Of all the social sciences, history seems to attract conservatives.

 

Thanks LangleyMan for the link. It's a good read.

 

You're welcome.

 

Has Moore found a way to blame liberals for his pedophilia yet?

 

this is just batshit crazy and absolutely no argument with sanity in mind.
Are you saying that sex with minors is ok?
Really?

Wow....

 

To be fair, he just said that a 32 year old man touching the genitals of a 14 year old girl & having her touch his genitals is fine. Not at all illegal apparently. The line was drawn at intercourse. Fortunately the law is a bit more strict.

So, it turns out, are the good folk of Alabama, who reversed a dramatic recent trend among Evangelical Christians & decided that the private life of a candidate DOES matter....at least if that private life involves chasing teenage girls.

 

I am... speechless.

 

If only a few more folk here would follow your lead. They might make fools of themselves less often.