Independant Investigation on WTC Dust

They know it was not the primer used on the iron columns for the Towers.

My point is painfully obvious, without knowing the original location of the tested chips the results are meaningless.

 

So tell that to the truthers who claim Jones' work on the red gray chips proves thermite. The whole purpose of the paper is to debunk the claims of Jones et al., and it does it spectacularly.

 

'I don't want to waste my time reading a paper that doesn't say what I want it to'-translation

 

This logic is flawed. The purpose of the study was not dependent on the original location of the tested chips. If you had read even the introduction you would know that.

Thus the purpose was to analyze red/gray chips found in sample of dust generated by the WTC disaster.


The method of identifying these chips was the same method used in Harrit et al.

The results of the testing procedure have nothing to do with the original location of the chips in either study. Thus knowing the original location does not affect the study in any way.

 

That would be real cool except for the fact I already cited where the paper states that origin of the chips are unknown and that the chips did not come from the iron columns used in the Towers. If anyone wants to be dumb enough to read a whole paper that inherently makes any conclusion meaningless, that is their stupid choice.

 

I've already made it clear I don't care what Jones had to say about it so basically you are just trying to camoflauge the OP fail.

 

Why do you keep stating that the chips have to have come from the iron columns used the towers in order for the study to have meaning? If they came from the painted concrete in the stairwells does that make the study less meaningful?

 

Not knowing where the chips came from makes any testing for explosives completely useless. That is painfully obvious but keep dancing.....

 

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.....

 

I never said it HAD to come from the iron columns......

 

Then why don't you link a post where I cite ANYTHING by Jones? You can't because I have not.....but keep being dishonest....

 

No, I am clarifying the purpose of the report. The fact you can't handle it or understand such simple concepts is not my concern.

 

Harrit et al.concluded that thermitic material was present in the WTC dust. The study linked in the OP was an attempt to review Harrit et al. and it concluded that Harrit was incorrect. What does the original location of the test material have to do with the study?

 

You refused to read the report because the chips did nto come from the iron columns used in the towers. You said so here:

So I'll ask again.

What does the location of the chips have to do with the results to test the composition of the red/gray chips?

 

Where did the Harrit study get the dust from?

If they don't know the source of the chips then the testing is moot. You really have to ask why? If the chips did not come from a location were artificial implosion means could have been used then it should show no evidence of artificial means.

 

Pay attention einstein. I said the report was useless because THEY DO NOT KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THE CHIPS. I only have about 6 posts clearly stating that. I also highlighted the fact they know it didn't come from the iron columns.

Why is location important? Tell ya what, go gather some dust from outside your home and have it tested for 9/11 explosives. Please post the results here. Can't wait to see the conclusion!!

 

Maybe you should read that study too and find out.

Millette clearly outlines where his samples came from.

You seem to think this study has something to do with artificial implosion. Perhaps if you had read it you would not have become so confused.

 

Pay attention einstein wannabe.

Truthers pretended dust obtained from around ground zero on 9/11 showed signs of thermite. They said this was clear evidence explosive nano thermite could have been used on 9/11. They focused on the red and gray chips. They even said specifically how they selected the red and gray chips from the rest of the dust.

A claim was made.

Now along comes a new paper. It uses dust collected from the same general vicinity. They find red and gray chips that show the exact same characteristics. They test these chips using a more scientific and a much more thorough approach. They find no "thermitic" material, thus negating the claim made.

Claim made. Claim debunked.

And here you are whining about it.

 

Since I've never cited ANY study saying thermite was found your new strawman is pathetic. What other truthers say has nothing to do with me.

Your predictable whiny response will be to say "I didn't say you cited a study." Your accusation I am whining about this BS study is enough of an implication but your dishonesty has no limits.

 

I read that part already which is partly why I pointed out they don't know where the chips came from. Proper testing should have been done when the buildings came down but since there was no official investigation in to the debris we are lacking basic testing background.

 

You've done nothing but (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the meaningless paper. I've been explaining why it isn't meaningless. The fact you can't follow along and are now pretending I am claiming you're citing studies only shows a very tenative grasp on reality.

Wrong. The fact you knew before you even posted that I didn't claim what you've accused me of only shows your patent dishonesty.

So why are you even here? You're not furthering the discussion along. You're just whining about a study you don't understand that doesn't involve you. Move along already.

 

There was quite an extensive examination and study of the debris.

 

Only a fool would regard the conclusion as having any merit. Not knowing where the chips came from makes it a moot point but don't let basic honesty get in the way of your agenda.

 

You accused me of whining about this paper BECAUSE it supposedly debunked another study. But keep up your dishonest posts........like I said.....your posts actually help people doubt the official theory.....so thank you....

 

The only dishonesty comes from you. Your posts continue to become more and more desperate and pathetic. Still can't come up with a reason to be here I see.