Iranian boats attempted to seize British tanker

Humans can neither destroy or save the planet.

Israel has more and better airforce, more and better ground vehicles.
Taking the land mass, who on earth would want to do that?
Destroying their military from the air would be easy, destroying their government would be easy and destroying their nuke plants and oil resources would be easy.
2 months of arial bombardment and they'd be done enough.
First target is their command and control.
Kill their leaders and their ability to communicate.

Much preferable however is for them to just stop with all their nonsense.

 

I sense there is more internal rebellion against the mullahs than the clowns in our media know of or want the public to know

If the mullahs can get America to attack iran that ignite national patriotism and defuse the opposition

I think the sanctions are working

 

and sadly at the moment the US, the country who is most responsible for the problems the world is now facing is refusing to even address the issue and wanting to engage in war instead. Clearly a very destructive and indeed self destructive country,

Exactly how do you think you are going to destroy their potential nukes which appears to be what this is all about. Your position to Iran is 'We want to destroy you so that you cannot defend yourself'. This is all the CZ's wanting their Armageddon. If Israel could do what she wants done to Iran she would have done it already. At one time she was talking about even nuking Iran. The Israeli Military were against this, both a normal invasion and nuking and they won. Israel then worked on getting the US to come in and do its dirty work. The US Military I am told also do not believe it is workable. Of course to Bolton and Pompeo both CZ's it is acceptable because 'god' wants it. Unable to get support they are manipulating the situation in the hope that people at home will begin to believe it is worth it and that they can create a situation where Trump would find it impossible not to concur. I noticed some of them raging against Trump for refusing the last try.

Had the US not gone against the Treaty the US signed with the UK, France, Germany, Russia and China there would be no question of Iran thinking of building nukes and we would have had several years to build up a friendly relationship with Iran (who claims not to want to build them anyway but may need to for self defense against the UK and US) Israel has been saying that Iran is a couple of months away from having working nukes since about 2003. If Iran wanted them and given how often she has been told she was going to be destroyed in the years since, I am sure she would now have them.

By the way destroying Iran would not be as simple as you believe and I am sorry you wish to kill so many people but this is off topic so lets leave it now.

 

1. America has slowed it's greenhouse gas emissions more than anyone else. And we are far from being the worst polluters.
2. I don't want to kill anyone. I want the Iranian government to behave. They are the ones with a thirst for blood. Israeli and American blood in particular.
All i am talking about is making thevworld safe from them.

 

When you place explosives on tankers and then try to take hostage another in international waters you are don't more than twisting the tail.

 

Britain deploying another destroyer ahead of schedule.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ulf-amid-tensions-with-iran-sky-idUSKCN1U71F2

 

Is that what the Iranians should do also when they have a tanker seized like the British did last week to an Iranian tanker at Gibraltar?

 

You're still not answering the question, whyvdo you support Iran and its leaders?

 

There are international sanctions against Iran and shipments to Syria, are there against the UK? Are you declaring on the record all sanctions should be immediately lifted against Iran?

 

No, I am saying that it is not unexpected..

 

To the bottom straightaway with no warning and no apology.

 

Most people are wrong and have been all along. He does know what he's doing.

 

No one has asked me that question. In this there is no question that the US is the villain having gone against the JCOPA. This the US did because they wanted a war with Iran. The US has also demanded that everyone stop doing business with Iran, in effect putting her on siege. Iran was keeping the deal not just up to the time US bailed out but in minute detail until very recently when she has felt the need to pressure the EU a little. Either they keep their part of the deal or neither will Iran. The steps so far Iran has taken are minute and will if Europe, Russia and China start to properly keep their side of the deal despite the threats from the US, allow Iran can to easily return to full compliance minus the US. Iran in this is in the right. Iran's people are suffering when they have done nothing wrong. I support the one in the right here. That is Iran. Nothing to do with their leaders though I do like what I have seen of Zarif - and I have watched a couple of long interviews. He appears very astute, intelligent and also seems to have a sense of humour. I understand he was educated in the US.

By the way the US's actions have given much more power to hard liners in Iran and by that stifled the moderate. It was known this was what would happen so I have to imagine it was the intent of the US.

 

And neither should be the international response if they do it again.

 

Thank you Captain Obvious.

 

I believe everyone until I catch them lying, and believe me I will catch them lying. I have a very long memory, and the ability to connect things. I will retain the lie in my mind, and judge it for what it is, because there is a big difference between a defensive lie, a complimentary and flattering lie to please someone, and a criminal and deceptive one.

The only nations I have found uttering criminal and deceptive lies, which includes covering up facts is the US and its allies - who are going along with the deception out of pressure, or their own self serving interests.

When I read this, I thought you were talking about the tanker confiscated by Britain at Gibralter.

And a hundred times worse than it was under Saddam Hussein before our sanctions and war.

 

Several trillion dollars and several million dead later, and the "peace" is still terribly fragile. Oh, we did good all right. Saddam was a ruthless tyrant, and especially bad as time went on but he was OUR ruthless tyrant , no worse than Tito in Yugoslavia and possibly better than Jared's, and our, new BFF in the KSA. We could have eased him out with no real fuss but that might have entailed having some respect for the oldest culture existing rather than trying to turn it into West Texas on the Euphrates.

 

The love for humanity and justice never ceases to amaze me. What ever happened to the Christian nation envisioned by our forefathers?

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War is bursting out all over,
from China to the Middle Sea.
It's here and there, and everywhere
as we shall shortly see.

Now chaos is my middle name,
which I am proud to say
and for the ones not in the know
it's called the American way.. Jeannette



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He believes the world can be run like a business and worse than that like the way he ran his businesses. How many times was he bankrupt. One thing is for certain, Trump does not mind killing civilians - remember his thing about killing the wives and children of ISIS members. I was hearing just yesterday about his massive killing of civilians with drones. I thought Obama was bad but Trump takes the biscuit.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Trump massive killing with drones&pc=cosp&ptag=G6C999ABE91C7D8F5&form=CONBNT&conlogo=CT3210127

I don't think he has any problem with war with Iran. It is what his base, Christian Right want and what his donors, CZ'S and Adelson want and given he has no conscience about killing children, he would have no problem with the massive loss of life incluing US life this would bring. But he wants at least one more term and possibly someone pointed out to him that American's coming back by the planeload in body bags was not going to bring it. Which Trump is it. The one who says he wants to save lives or the one who says he wants a genocide. I used to believe the story that he had a large bark but little bite but hearing of the mass of people he has killed with drones has changed my mind.

Whether or not he wants a war with Iran now, if Pompeo and Bolton manage to either trick Iran or do a false flag of Iran doing something particularly awful, they will win their war- not win the war, win the ability to start it.

 

Oh lordy! Keep the faith Alexa.

 

This piracy on the high seas seems not to be an Iranian (Persian) thing or an Arab thing but a Muslim thing.

Most pirates today seem to be Muslims be they pirates from Iran's Republican Guard or Somali pirates or Indonesian pirates.

 

And once he gets a second term there will be no reason for him not to cause that. This is reason #475 that he must NOT get a second term (and maybe shouldn't finish the first, though that looks remote at this point)

I also think he will start a war with Iran once it becomes obvious he is losing in 2020. That is move #1 from the Dictator's Playbook. It won't work and may actually help and accelerate his impeachment (we can but hope)

 

Piracy is an Indian Ocean thing (almost more than the Caribbean) and most Indian Oceans coasts are Muslim.

The real origins of all latter day piracy though are the Spanish and the Portuguese, (then the Brits). They weren't really explorers, they were pirates. "Santiago and at them" was their most frequent greeting for people they met along the way

 

Americans?

 

Yeh, right, that worked real well with Mossa Degh in 1954.

The Iranians still remember how we unseated a democratically elected Premier (he was 'socialist", about like Sweden now) and gave them the Shah for 25 years; that's why the Mullahs are in power now. All they have to do when they get in trouble is rattle their swords at us and we dutifully rattle ours back, and then they say "the Americans are coming" and 10,000 more join the Revolutionary Guard. Yeh, they're just waiting for us to liberate them, all we have to do is "kick the door in" and cheering crowds will carry our soldiers through the streets

Sanctions are working great we're starving toddlers right and left, while the Army eats fine.