The British were already occupying the US before the American Revolution. We did not prevent an invasion or occupation.
One...thank you for serving. Two...so because you served...we have to take your word that we could have had an all volunteer force in WW2, but we chose instead to use a draft because it is more convenient? I served...and I say you are full of soup. Are you required to take my word for you being wrong?
We could have had an all volunteer services in WW2 because the first few months after Pearl Harbor show there were no shortages of men who wanted to volunteer to fight. Rather than taking them, they were told "Go home and wait for your draft number to be called."
There is not way ANYONE could have known that the volunteers were adequate to the job ahead, because we had no way of knowing what "the job ahead" was going to be. But, you have a right to pretend you know this crap...so continue to pretend. Yeah, I suppose in your mind...that is what they did with all volunteers. You would do better if you worked a grassy knoll into posts of that kind, Questerr. In the meantime...I certainly think conscription is not immoral.
Not convenience, but it was quicker than organizing volunteers. Having the mass draft made it easy to collect and train in mass numbers. They actually discuss this during Advanced Individual Training during a soldier's IET stages. At least in mine they did. It's why we have a broad amount of specialized soldiers now.
For **** sake, that Executive Order is the one that told volunteers to go home and wait for their draft number to be called.
At least you have Internet. Back in my day (2007) we didn't have your fancy wifi and iPads and smartphones. If you wanted Internet on CQ, you'd have to drag a cable all the way from your room.
Hah yea our LT on duty added wifi for the conference room. cq desk is right outside of there. Got the password from one of the squad leaders.
Okay...but how does that negate anything that I said. Here is what I said: There is no way. Not even FDR could know that. He ordered what he considered a proper order (probably for the reasons AS mentioned)...but so what? You do have the right to pretend you know that crap. Nothing in the order says you don't. Look at the date of the order. Yup, I do...and nothing in the order negates that.
I wonder if the US had been forced to use volunteers during WW2 if that wouldn't have saved lives by forcing them to develop better equipment. Like if they couldn't get people to volunteer to be tankers because the Sherman would explode and kill everyone inside if a Tiger crewman so much as sneezed in its direction maybe they would have developed better tanks that didn't use gasoline engines. But no. The US government decided, rather than fixing the problem, to just enslave people and force them to use deficient equipment.
That's not a bad turn around for implementing a draft of that magnitude. Funding, training, and all operations need to be in place by the time he signs that order. I'm assuming he commanded the military for preparations immediately following the attack. The attack happens, right? So we need a much larger fighting force. But we don't have the resources and man power to train immediately. All operations need to be put in place. This of course is my speculation given my experience with Op orders.
A short time...huh? It was a year! Having a discussion with you is a lot like having a discussion with a brick wall.
In that year, they managed to produce nearly 40% of the total servicemembers who served during the war. http://www.nationalww2museum.org/le...2-history/ww2-by-the-numbers/us-military.html You're telling me they were forced to use a draft? No they weren't. If they had trouble getting volunteers, they could have increased pay and incentives. Instead they choose slavery because it was reliable and convenient.
I'm telling you that I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE. I'm also telling you that if you had an ounce of ethics in you, you would also acknowledge that YOU do not know for sure. And for the record, I am telling you that I am not expecting that to happen.
