Is revolting against our government a viable option now?

no one is going to revolt against the govt.

 

An Article 5 state convention is not a free for all in which anything goes. Its an amendment process in which proposed amendments have to be ratified by 38 states (either the state legislature or a state convention).

But I do expect there will be all kinds of crazy ideas proposed. The prog states oppose a convention, but if the convention does happen then they will all jump on board to try to either hijack it or derail it.

 

If people choose to revolt now over what has happened to the constitution but not before Obama was in office, I'll pass, since those people clearly don't care about the constitution, but just want to stage a coup on a democrat in the White House.

 

It was the Nixon administration that pushed through the "no-knock laws" that violated the Fourth, Ninth, and probably other Amendments, and the British common law edict that "A man's home is his castle," taking a giant step toward a police state by turning local police into paramilitary instruments.

Democrat Teddy Kennedy co-sponsored that legislation and other Democrats voted for it, but all of this began way before Obama, and the Republicans are at least equally culpable.

 

It's happened a great deal, in almost every aspect of life now, from our standing professional military to our unbacked currency and the government's innumerable other intrusions into our lives, including of course the spying.

They abridge the Constitution, thinking that passing some piece of legislation giving them new powers and authority make it all legitimate. It's up to us to put our collective foot down and tell them otherwise.

 

I agree but do it with a vote or by running for office. Change should come from within the system otherwise our country could descend into chaos.

 

as long as we have a democratic process, strong democratic institututions, strong checks & balances, a strong supreme court, there is no need for a revolution.

all govt. policies and methods could be changed, in a revolutionary way, if the The People demand it.

 

What's wrong with chaos? When a system gets corrupt and out of our control, its demise becomes necessary. It's how this nation was born.

 

Chaos endangers my family, my livelihood, and that of all those around us. It also can lead to the disintegration of the nation or the invasion of foreign powers. That is not an outcome worth having, when we have a system that can be fixed from the inside. Only a fool would want chaos because out come of that chaos cannot be predicted or controlled.

 

Seems to me you're placing immediate concerns over greater concerns that affect more people in a more general way. Freedom isn't free

 

Your number one priority is caring for your family. Nothing else matters more as a husband and father. The issues brought up are very important but they mean nothing when you are sitting on the ground holding your dead child in your arms and wondering what you could have done differently.

 

Well, that's being a tad hyperbolic. Why would you expect your family to end up dead over resistance to the feds?

 

When ever you begin an endeavor picture and be prepared for the worst case scenario. Rarely are revolutions peaceful or bloodless, most times it involves troops, bullets, and blood. Ask the Syrians about revolutions and what happens when a people fight against a government with tanks. Not to mention we have our own history of rebellion and we all know what happened the last time.

As I stated before I am very much for correcting the damage that has been done to our rights and the constitution. But I am not willing the sacrifice the country and those in it to achieve that goal. Only change through the ballet box is acceptable to me. Anything else is courting disaster.

 

Why is it the strict constructionists are the ones demanding a constitutional convention? Things not going their way and they are not so strict anymore?

 

I would go along with :Better Red than Dead, too, and also better to convert to Islam if push came to shove. But, if things get almost intolerable, it would nice to be able to vote with our feet like our European ancestors did, and get the hell out of Dodge. In order for your children to have that option it would be very helpful for them to learn Spanish to open up Uruguay, Costa Rica, and other places to them, and if they can also learn Chinese they will have the world by the short hairs.

 

If it came to it I would vote with my feet, hopefully to Canada or perhaps a Scandinavian country. I do not believe South America is Stable enough and I would not want to live under the restrictions of China.

 

But we've seen what happens that way. We get false promises and no change for the better. All government does is grow, not shrink.

 

as bad as it seems sometimes this is still the most free nation if you've done any traveling you'd know that.

 

First, a constitutional convention is clearly in the constitution. They want one because the Constitution needs to be reinforced, as it is being ignored more and more.

 

Would you sacrifice your family over those issues?

 

There are no guarantees one way or the other.. But hey, our military personnel are treated as heroes for putting their lives on the line for some brand of freedom, aren't they?

 

That did not answer the question, it is easy to sacrifice ones self for a cause but are you willing to sacrifice those you love for it as well? The ultimate sacrifice for your beliefs.

 

I've traveled quite a bit, and can say that your statement is not true in all ways in all cases. For instance, there is no minimum legal drinking age in France, although it's illegal for people under the age of 18 to purchase liquor. And there was no legal drinking age in China at all until 2006 when China conformed to the international standard and made it age 18. (BTW, only the US, Pakistan, and maybe one or two other countries have a drinking age of 21.)

In China, Ecuador, India, and many other countries you can purchase any medicinal drugs you want to without a note from a licensed physician or anyone else, and Uruguay made the growing and use of marihuana legal as of last year over US objections.

I don't know how difficult it is to own and operate a business in any of the countries I've mentioned, or other countries in the world, but I do know that it is becoming more difficult every day in the US.

 

Are you willing to sacrifice the freedom and wellbeing of future generations? I don't agree with your question because there is no guarantee of any "sacrifice" of this kind involved in standing up to oppressive government. There may be an increased risk of premature death due to such action, but it's not a guarantee. It's a matter of weighing our interests, both in the present and in the future.

Of course, it takes a great number of people of a similar mind as well. The longer we wait the worse things are likely to become and the more people will thus be likely to take that risk.

 

It is all about your willingness to accept the worst case scenario. By your response it sounds like you would not be willing to make that sacrifice. Which frankly is logical, but at the same time says that perhaps you should really consider the consequences or at least potential consequences of any type of revolution.

As to sacrificing the well being of future generations I have not seen anything that would harm our future in any lasting way that would necessitate risking our current generation. So to answer your question I would rather protect my family now and then worry about future generations that may or may not come because one thing is certain if my family does not survive then there will not be a future generation for me.