Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    ...neat....
     
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    Do you understand the benefits of global warming ??
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    Some of them...as well as the negatives. I just do not believe additional cropland compensates for the detriments.
     
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    The data proves you wrong. But those facts are irrelevant to those who worship the alarmism of global warming.

    https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2...res-are-helping-corn-production-in-us-for-now
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    I can only assume you did not read or understand your link.
    "Our research shows that improvements in crop yield depend, in part, on improvements in climate,” said Peter Huybers, Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences in the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences (EPS) and of Environmental Science and Engineering at the Harvard John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS). “In this case, changing temperatures have had a beneficial impact on agricultural production, but there is no guarantee that benefit will last as the climate continues to change. Understanding the detailed relationships between climate and crop yield is important as we move towards feeding a growing population on a changing planet.”

    The data proves nothing about my commentary.
     
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    The data shows that as the globe warms agricultural output increases and the fields self cool. There is no reason to believe that this trend will not continue. More arable land will open up globally and food output will increase with minimal downside due to self cooling of the fields.

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    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/10/31/1808035115#sec-3

    The data and common sense (see the above quote from the actual paper) show that you are wrong in your belief that there will be greater harm than benefit from global warming. What do you base that belief on ??
     
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    Primarily because of increased storm activity, Desertification, ocean temperature and atmospheric temperature increase, Sea level, Methane release from permafrost/sediments, Ocean Albedo changes at the poles, Ice melt opening the northeast passage, glacial thinning in Antarctica, Atmospheric chemical changes....etc....
     
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    As I suspected - you have nothing. Too funny.
     
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    Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    Have an alarmist day. Being an alarmist you never have to quantify anything. All that is required is to show alarm. BTW the IPCC does NOT predict increased major storm frequency. They predict increased storm intensity but that has not been the case.
     
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    And yet you've been unable to ever post such data. You've only been able to post cherrypicks and red herrings that don't prove the point you claim they do. For example, your corn data is dumb.

    First, the science says corn production will decline IN THE FUTURE. You point out that it has grown in the past to refute that. That doesn't make any sense, as nobody has argued that corn production hasn't grown in the past.

    Your source doesn't say days are cooler. It says the way corn is grown now has caused the fields to be cooler. It says that humans have adjusted to the climate better, which is very different from your claim that the climate has increased production.

    You rarely seem to understand what your sources actually say. You see them on a conspiracy blog, they told you it settles things, and you believe.

    Better luck next time with trying to foist your religious views off on people. Don't worry, you've still got your hysteria, scare tactics, alarmism and conspiracy theories to chant as mantras. Understand it doesn't really matter, because the rational people are just ignoring you.
     
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    Do the required reading (I’ve given you the titles) and educate yourself.
     

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