ISIS wife from Alabama will not be admitted to the US, Pompeo says

It will depend on how Pompeo determined she is not a US citizen. There could be a legal challenge but she has to get here first. Without a visa or valid passport, that could be a challenge. Like everything else though there are activist judges that could demand she be allowed to return and be tried.

 

That may be so, but the government issued her with a US passport. I believe the correct procedure would be to let her back into the country, then bring legal proceedings against her to revoke her status. That would be due process. That would be rule of law.

Regardless of what she has done, it doesn't sit very well with me if the government can say to any US passport holder, after they have left the country, "sorry, there is a problem with your status. You can't come back," without due process.

 

It would not take an "activist judge" to tell the government that a person who left the US on a US passport is entitled to return to the US in order to have her status determined.

There is a bigger picture here and all of you "keep her out" people seem to be missing it.

 

Doesnt it seem a bit hypocritical that it joins ISIS..but then when it wants to return to the US, people suggest "due process" must be followed..
Did it take any lives (murder) whilst it was in ISIS...in my opinion it doesnt deserve due process...
It lost that right when it joined ISIS...

 

Agreed. I’m pretty sure this young woman is eager come back, and possibly face legal repercussions, compared to staying in a refugee camp. I’m not sure the government has a rock solid case against her, and maybe that’s the reason she’s being blocked. Or, it could be Trump scoring cheap political points. Who knows.

 

Sorry, we are country of laws, not ruled by king, emperor, and dictatorship. If her status is a citizen, neither Trump or Pompeo can stop her from coming back. She can then be tried for treason and stripped of citizenship if the law allows. The only "useful idiots" are those who don't believe in the rule of law.

 

The one and only reason they're scurrying back home is because IS is on the defensive in the region, and they're thinking of their own cowardly worthless skins.

 

Jeez how the **** can they try her for anything when there's no proof, nor ever can be, of what material contribution she made or didn't make to the jihad? Have you not given that any thought???

'We are a country of laws' How they must laugh when they read that crap.

 

It's very apparent you didn't even read the article. Try it sometime before you post your silly comment. By your own comment, what right did they have from stopping her from entering the country if she is a citizen???

 

Exactly....
She committed treason by tweeting "spill American blood"
Her lawyer is Hasham Shibly, is a Hamas-linked CAIR operative.
Obviously, ISIS has sent everyone back home to continue the fight against the “NEAR ENEMY”.
DOCTRINE OF THE NEAR ENEMY: Koran 9:123 – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Egyptian jihad theoretician Muhammad abd al-Salam Faraj wrote in “The Neglected Duty” (Al Faridah al Ghaibah) about the necessity of attacking the ‘near enemy’ first in order to create a strong Islamic base from which to attack the ‘far enemy’. (Al Qaeda means ‘the base’.)
Jihadists have theorized about the issue of first attacking the ‘near enemy’ (adou al-qareeb) versus the far enemy (adou al bayeed) in order to remove jahiliyya (non-Islamic thought) and create an Islamic state based on Islamic ideology from which they may attack the ‘far enemy’.
It should never be allowed back into the US...but somehow I think the islamic dog whistles
in Congress will ensure it returns...

 

"A country of laws"...excuse me whilst I puke........

 

Criminals, traitors and terrorists have rights in the US. Maybe even in the UK. Pompeo's legal counsel says she's not a US citizen. If he is correct she's not coming back. She and the others could all be tried in an International court if she did legally renounce citizenship, maybe in Iraq?

 

You don't like the idea of the rule of law? You don't like the idea of due process?

 

I don't need to read the article - if she wants to return then ipso facto she's out there, and the salient question is what she did or didn't do as to whether there's any point of subjecting her to a trial. There's nothing 'silly' about that - and I don't write silly posts anyway. When somebody turns traitor against their country they should instantly and automatically lose all citizen rights and privileges in that country.

 

You don't believe in the law. What a surprise.

 

Not for it....it committed treason...are you an IS sympathiser.....

 

Islamic supporter....

 

Do you think those of your countrymen who were decapitated or caged and set on fire or boiled alive got due process? This liberal ignorance truly is dangerous.

 

Maybe in England where the King used to rule but not in the US where we have the Constitution to protect our rights. On the one hand, you said there are no material evidence she committed any terrorist acts, but in the same breath, you claim she is a traitor. So indeed, your post is silly and you've just doubled down on it.

 

I've highlighted the key part. She clearly was a US citizen when she left the country on a US passport. It seems the only way should could lose it is if she legally renounce her citizenship. Injeun helpfully posted the requirements for doing so:

It should be easy for Pompeo to identify the date that she appeared in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer, and the Embassy or Consulate at which she signed her oath of renunciation. And produce that oath.

In the absence of that - she is still a citizen and has a right to return.

 

LOL...stupid over the top hysterics. You sure you aren't living in a communist country? Commies are very good at this sort of tactics.

 

Nope. You are 100% wrong. Unlike you, I believe in the rule of law and recognise that it needs to be applied, even if I don't like the outcome.

 

The trouble with that is they become cause celebres, then they become martyrs, and that in turn stokes up ethnic tensions and further hatreds?

 

Ignorance are those who don't believe in due process, rule of laws, or the US Constitution. Those are traitors far more dangerous than this woman can ever be.

 

No, I don't think they did.

But then again, people who are robbed, murdered, raped etc. at home don't get due process. And yet we afford the perpetrators of those crimes due process. Either the country is one where rule of law applies, or it doesn't.

There are only two options. Which do you choose?