Islam and Islamophobia

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by stan1990, Dec 3, 2018.

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  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Then prove it. You can't.

    I accept your concession
     
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    Bukhari.V1B4N139 "I asked Allah's Apostle about a person who imagined they passed wind during prayer. He replied. 'He should not leave his prayer unless he hears sound or smells something.'"

    Don't even know your own religion huh,
    I asked you to please learn something about it before you attempt to argue.

    A person was mentioned before the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and he was told that he had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said, "Satan urinated in his ears." Volume 2, Book 21, Number 246 : Narrated by Abu Huraira

    Tabari I.267 "And He [Allah] taught Adam all the names as follows. He taught him the name of everything, down to fart and little fart."
     
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    Something beautiful to start your day

    Say, (O Muhammad, to mankind): If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Quran 3:31
     
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    Taburu !;367
    Jesus said, tell us about Noah's Ark.
    He said it was 1200 cubits long and 600 cubits wide. It had 3 stories.
    One for domestic and wild animals, another for humans, and another for birds.

    When the dung of the animals got excessive, Allah inspired Noah to tickle the elephants tail, He did and a male and female hog fell down and attacked the dung.
     
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    Follow Muhammed.
    That's pretty evil from the start.
    That's the main problem in Islam, is people following Muhammed.

    I am still looking for something good from Muhammed.
     
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    There is so much good in Islam.....you need only open your eyes.
     
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    Jesus was talking about his dad....God the Father.....the god of christians.
     
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    That's not correct.

    There may be good in Muslims,
    But the religion of Islam, and the teachings of Muhammed are pure evil.
     
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    Why do you waste you time just posting ignorant stuff.
    It's obvious he is talking to someone about the Ark. Not any God.
    Sure the Muslim God will wipe out the people on earth,
    But the Christians aren't even invented yet.


    why can't you understand that.

    when the Muslim God, wipes out everyone, there is no such thing as a Christian.

    You can repeat your BS all you want, but that does not change anything.
    There were no Christians yet.
     
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    You understand its the same god.....right? The name of the religion changed but not the god. I can not make this any easier for you. You seem to think god was was born when Jesus was born....how is that even possible?

    This gets funnier and funnier
     
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    Kind of like christanity and many other religions
     
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    How so.

    it's nothing like any religion I can think of.
     
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    Do you just eat stupid pills.

    You are the one claiming it is the Christian god.
    You are not claiming it is the Jewish god
    You are not claiming it is the Muslim god.

    You keep saying it is the Christian God.

    Now you are saying they are the same.

    But according to the text.

    It is the Jewish god who sends the flood
    It is the Muslim God who sends the flood.

    Christians are not invented yet.

    It would be thousands of years later when the Christians accept the God
    , and now we have the New testament and a change in the rules.


    anyways learn something about the religion, then come back and argue.
     
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    Did god only exist from the time of christ .....or before that too?

    It is so funny how upset you get when you are wrong. LOL
     
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    ... which is also the God of Jews and Muslims.

    Religion tends to see itself as permanent and unchanging. But, the number of incompatible variations that are invented and thrive proves otherwise.
     
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    I don't disagree with you. I am just saying it is unfair to single out one. The god of all three of those religions was a homicidal maniac
     
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    LOLOL

    Then why were you singeling out the Christian God for the entire thread, until a Muslim tells you, you were wrong.

    You need to learn about these religions if you are going to argue about them.

    It just makes you sound so stupid when you say what you do.
     
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    Simply to counter you singling out Islam. I thought that was quite clear. One is no better than the other. I knew you would get there
     
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    Oh, so you were ignoring the facts, and just whining that someone is picking on Islam.
    so you just lied about another one.

    You cannot have any kind of discussion if you are going to constantly lie.
     
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    I have presented the facts. And those facts make you very upset.

    Which I find hilarious. LOL
     
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    One problem is that the members of each are all humans.

    Surely that problem outweighs most if not all other issues - whether or not God was eternal or fabricated by mankind.
     
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    That is probably an opinion.
    Religious people will generally swear by their Gods, as absurd as some are.
    And there are over 3.000 of them.

    Personally, I think they are all fabrication.
     
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    I really don't go after that fact. It may be true, but we aren't going to end God, regardless of its source.

    Besides, I really do believe that the problem lies within the fact that we're all humans. The precepts of the mainline world religions do not call for violence.
     
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    I don't think we as a race are going to end the need for a magic man, so they will always be with us.

    The problem is when your favorite magic man, calls for the sacrifices.

    When you have orders to kill everyone who is not in your group, now you have problems.
     
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    I think the problem comes before that.

    Religion can be the basis for considering ones own interests or the interests of ones own communiity as justifying the taking of basic human rights of others.

    Israel has a conceept of property, property ownership, borders, voting rights, etc.

    But, their religion allows them to see those concepts as not applying to anyone on the outside. They see those not as human rights, but rights that acrue exclusively to members of their own faith.

    I don't see that as more than one example of many. China has had long perids of being a highly closed society. So have Chriistians who at times have justified making it difficult to impossible even for members of different vaients of Christianity.

    Religion is an incredibbly strong divider.
     

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