Isn't it time you yanks grew up over your gun death epidemic?

If that were true Oz would be petitioning against Yanks rather than guns. If you take it personally then it's your own fault. It's not the gun that kills but the irresponsible buffoon wielding it - and the gun crime statistic in the U.S. speaks very well for itself. Regardless .... remove the American or remove the gun. It seems very clear to me that Oz is in favour of removing the gun, not the American. That makes your assessment of Oz's agenda rather naked. All things considered, it looks to me that it's you with the "hidden agenda".

 

First, I wasn’t raised in the US and I have lived in many countries, experienced many cultures and speak several languages, one, I guarantee you’ve never heard of. Though I have lived in the US for a long time, my first exposure was in the 70’s, there are aspects of the culture I still haven’t internalized, in part because, America is a complex mix of many subcultures; I have learned not to make generalizations of Americans, but then I refrain from making generalizations about any culture.
When I came to the US I had expectations mostly because my exposure to the US was from film and print; many of those expectations proved to be wrong, for example when I traveled to the West, I was disappointed not to see everyone strapped with guns and Speaking with a particular accent (some American accents were, and to some extent, still are difficult for me).
The picture many from other countries formed was not unlike what influenced mine; film and print (mostly news print that reported the sensational). In my youth, the mention of Chicago generated images of the Tommygun. That image, generalized to US culture at large, when combined with figures of gun related deaths of 40,000/yr for those in countries of the EU seem unimaginable. But those deaths are reported in a manner to deceptively provide an image similar to that I had in the 70’s of everyone packing guns and having shootout in the streets regularly, despite the actual numbers of gun shootings heavily inflated by suicides, spread across a vast country, 325,000,000 population, and even then, tend to be concentrated in areas of the mix of gangs, drugs and related crime. Most American’s don’t carry guns on a regular basis, and few (unless you live in certain gang/drug areas) go about their day worrying about gun violence. Hell, I was raised in West Belfast; the concern of violence was a constant theme for me, something when I share with Americans, almost none can relate to.
Do I have a hidden agenda, yes... I tend to post when I see hypocrisy, biased and misleading information being shared.
In regard to guns, it is as impossible to generalize American on the basis of the prevalence of them in the US. The reasons individuals own and carry them ...or don’t are not easily pigeonholed as many would like to suggest. Nor, are the vast majority prone to use a gun to inflict violence as many proffer.
There are many different opinions related to guns, given the protected individual liberties American’s enjoy, each is entitled to their opinion. But, those forming opinions from the ‘outside’ do so from their biased point of view, not from one formed by an understanding of the complexities of the culture and the associated issues.
I somewhat equate the lack of understanding to that of many Americans when they hear where I was raised and offer their thoughts.... ‘that thing over there is over religion, right?... why can’t both religions be tolerated’? ... hmmm how is that picture promulgated? BTW... when I first meet a Brit and they find I was raised in the Falls area, there is an immediate recognition followed by a judgement of what I must be.

 

He supports the NBP as much as you do the KKK.

 

I don’t know what NBP is.
As for me supporting the KKK, I find that supposition rather humorous given my history. But, I am curious, how did you draw that conclusion? Lots thin air?

 

Since you do not what the NBP is, then I do not believe your suggestion about your background.

 

People must not be committed just because they have a Mental Disability.

 

572,000 people died by guns in USA 1999-2016. This is a Democide and a tragedy.

 

I believe every life is very important. Most Jews, Christians and Muslims agree 100%. Social Darwinism is evil.

 

Enlighten me

 

Secondly, there is a much better than average chance that I have been to more countries than you (including Armagh, Down, and Antrim in the late 1970’s) and have therefore experienced a greater variety of cultures, what’s the bet now, boyo? I also speak several languages and, yes, I am willing to wager that I have heard of whatever one it is that you’re dangling in the dark. But all of this is a diversion from the main issue.

I lived 20+ years in the U.S. and I’m wondering why you left out the part about the rampant percentages of gun violence there. Are you going to fluff it off as misconceptions by way of the Tommygun in film and print? I think you’re just throwing shapes and hoping it’ll slip passed scrutiny control. Very sorry, but it won't wash.

 

It's the safest place for them where they cannot hurt themselves and others.

 

In the overall picture of life and death it's not worth worrying about, better to care about real causes of death versus cherry picking many years of numbers trying to make an ant hill appear to be a mountain.

And the term Democice that you are applying to shcu clearly demonstrated you have no clue of what you are talking about.

 

In the normal course of speech one should not use an acronym until after they have used the full term, with the acronym typed next to it in parentheses, failing to do so is lazy typing.

 

You are not Rudolph Hess, the original Grammar Nazi. You are not the school teacher here. Common knowledge dictates that the reasonable man and woman know what the NBP party is. What is wrong with you?

 

Nothing at all, however you seem to have an anger problem, and the party you are referring to is not widely known.

 

And you prove my point.

 

Yes I did, I proved it to be incorrect like many of the uninformed points you post.

 

You continue to make silly statements like your Orange God without any support.

 

Not that I give a **** whether or not you believe anything about my background,
but, I looked up the acronym since you seem intent wielding it to make some disingenuous point. The NBP wasn’t an acronym for any political party in the country where I was raised despite there being parties/groups that support communist related agendas.
As for believing my background, your insinuation of me supporting the KKK (assuming that was directed toward me) tells me you know nothing of my background nor can point to any post I have made that would support that insinuation. Not that you’d know, but my ideology is polar opposite that of the KKK.
So again, satisfy my curiosity, how did you arrive to make the KKK insinuation or are you just trolling?

 

Who cares to invest in your emotional declaration? I don't.

 

But you seemed to care enough to make an unfounded insinuation. Smear and run, eh?

 

As you've hardly touched upon Oz's statement in the OP and are much fonder in talking about yourself then it really is an obvious conclusion that your emotional declaration is your agenda.

 

That's because when leftists lack facts, they go personal, quite often projecting in the process, what they claim you are, is actually what they are.

Think of it as a confession of guilt.

 

Traveling to the North of Ireland, doesn’t mean you understand the culture, of which, there is more than one Cultural Tradition. Nor would that provide you with an understanding of the, relevant to the OP, contrast I drew of the daily difference in the experimental feelings of safety from gun gun violence.

There are numbers proffered by those of various agenda that are both the products of purposed manipulation and interpretation; for instance, the oft used number of 40k gun deaths a year are inflated with numbers related to suicide, and skewed by numbers representing those of gangs engaged in the drug trade and and others associated with drug use in concentrated areas, numbers that aren’t representative by the general population’s daily experience other that what is packaged and propagated by many MSM that seek to profit from sensationalizing what they report; the average soccer mom doesn’t go to the market or mall with kids in tow worrying about being a victim of gun violence unless they live in a high, game driven area of violence.
As for thought of some epidemic of mass shootings, only in the MSM, who profit on creating and sensationalizing those that occur and push fear for profit, is that true. Believe the headlines from the MSM that feeds you knowledge and you will see a narrative vastly different than the experience of most American.
So, tell me in you time in the US, how many shootings did you personally witness? How many times did you see citizens walking about with guns. How often were you in fear for your life as you went about it?

 

Funny how totalitarian shitholes keep telling the most powerful country in the world they should give up their guns and become totalitarian shitholes. No thanks...