Isnt this a really odd situation

There are still survivors from that war. I don't think we have any slaves or slave owners still alive.

 

It'll never end because Democrats won't allow it to end.

 

No, that's Republicans. They all act as if just teaching that slavery ever existed is a direct attack on them.

American slavery was unique in the Western World. It lasted longer here than in any other major Western nation and was the basis of the entire modern idea of white supremacy It was the first that saw slavery as the slow genocide which the Nazis practiced it as later on. It is a truly shameful part of our history and the war to keep it particulary so, not a "Lost Cause" we should erect statues to.

 

No, but we have people who remember segregation and Jim Crow. I know some.

 

Reparations for what? Just look at Africa and its history.Those people were lucky to be shipped to the USA.

 

Bottom line here is-----------------------as usual democrats want to have it both ways, depending on who they are talking to, and which side of the mouth they are talking out of.

 

Their descendants here are the lucky ones, that;s true, but their ancestors taken from Africa to become slaves here had lives there quite comparable to most Europeans of that time, and most of Africa's troubles right up to the present ARE due to the Slave Trade.

 

So you dont at all see the hypocrisy of dreamers being given a pass related to the decisions of the previous generations to break the law and the fact that you desire to reimburse people for other previous generation decisions?

That is exactly the point of the op.

 

Ok.. why do current generations of black people are owed financial compensation?

 

I bet you are blind to the slippery slope positions you endorse.

 

Is the federal government not who enforces immigration laws?

Slave owners where also individuals (who at the time were in compliance with the laws).

The responsible party in both examples are the federal government. How can current politicians support reparations while simultaneously supporting the DREAM act?

 

Any body who supports reparations realizes that the dollars are paid by them, or diverting taxes from things that benefit them, in turning hurting them.

 

750,000 people died to right the wrong.

 

Please do not listen to a word Margot2 says. She is a lying shill for Arabs and Islam. I only hope she gets paid well for her continuous bullshit.

"[H]istorian Paul Lovejoy estimates that some 9.85 million Africans were shipped out as slaves to Arabia and, in small numbers, to the Indian subcontinent. Lovejoy breaks his figures down as follows:

Between AD 650 and 1600, an average of 5,000 Africans [per year] were shipped out by the Arabs. This makes a rough total of 7.25 million.

Then, between 1600 and 1800, another 1.4 million Africans were shipped out by the Arabs. The 19th century represented the highest point of the Arabian trade where 12,000 Africans were shipped out every year. The total figure for the 19th century alone was 1.2 million slaves to Arabia.

The numbers game

Thus, in terms of numbers, Arabia’s 9.85 million is not far behind the conservative estimate of nearly 12 million African victims of the Atlantic slave trade. Some African historians, though, reject these figures on the grounds that they are too low."

"Through out the 19th century, the Omani Arab rulers of Zanzibar shipped hundreds of thousands of African slaves to work on clove plantations on the island. It was this trade that gave Europe and America so much satisfaction, after abolishing their own trade in African slaves, to highlight the wickedness of the Arab slavers who continued to enslave Africans well into the first decades of the 20th century. Even to this day, Arab slavers are still at work in Sudan and Mauritania, buying and selling black Africans."

https://newafricanmagazine.com/16616/

 

I really can't agree with you about Margot2, She generally agrees with everything I have read about the arabs and the Sauds and she gets the details right. I have known people who actually worked with the Arabs and even some who worked with the Sauds and they agree to a man (and woman): The Arabs are a modern and enlightened people, much beleaguered in the present world. They have had their problems and continue to do so, who doesn't (certainly not us). I have always heard that their major ambition was to turn Arabia into "A garden surrounded by our spears" and my main hope is that in the future it is the garden we get to deal with, and the spears can stay in their sockets.

 

The dollars paid are an investment. Conservative mythology notwithstanding we have received many times over repayment for any investments we have made in the poor of this country

 

I have a different perspective, based on talking to some of the Filipinas who have worked for the Arabs. They say the Arabs are a repressive and backwards and misogynistic and hateful bunch who wouldn't even let them wear little crosses around their necks to work. They were paid well, but they said they were treated like dogs and they couldn't wait for their contracts to be done so they could go back home. As for Margot2, I haven't seen her get a ******n thing right yet. You can see for yourself how wrong she is about slaves going to Arabia. I urge you to read the article. The suffering of the slaves in the Atlantic slave trade was as nothing compared to the suffering of those sent to Arabia. It even has a first-hand eyewitness account from no less than Dr. David Livingstone.

 

The population of all of Arabia wasn't a million people. LOLOL

 

Not exactly.

https://www.afro.com/the-transatlantic-slave-trade-500-years-later-the-diaspora-still-suffers/

 

Lol.

The war on poverty cost billions, maybe even trillions, yet we have a massive poverty problem.

Government is terrible at investing. See social security.

Yet, you see them as successful. Regardless.. what's my individual return on investment for my portion of the reparations?

 

Government investments aren't like business investments, the results aren't evident for a very long time and are often just the offsetting of even worse alternatives.
Conservatives are typically unable to see beyond their own noses, let alone lifetimes

 

You should know by now that they don't think anything through. EVER.

 

You actually think money is the answer?

Good lord

 

So? 99% of us have dirt poor ancestors who lived through much more difficult times.

 

Even worse than making a complete hash of the enormous opportunities and safety we enjoy in the First World? Hard to imagine.

PS: If the results aren't evident for a 'very long time', you're doing it wrong. A family determined to get ahead will do it in a single generation.