Israel and Iran on Path to War as Mideast Tinderbox Awaits Spark

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they do not. An agreement was made between the US and Russia on what they could attack.

    Russia seems to be considering how it will respond while in talks with Turkey and Iran. It did though take a Tomahawk home with the intention to make its own.
     
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    Russia can consider all they like...they'll do nothing.
    Yeah...take the 30 yr old tomahawk, that assad missile defense couldn't shoot down like they've taken how many other of our designs and consider it "new":) Maybe in 30 yrs they might catch up.
     
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    You do not know what Russia will or will not do. I simply said that if it were true what you said that "The Russians are desperate to keep what foothold they can in the ME"
    it will do what is necessary to facilitate keeping that foothold.

    There is a very serious danger in the world at the moment in that the US does not show Russia the same respect as it did during the cold war. The US is a very arrogant and Tyrannical State.
     
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    Truth hurts, hey? Collective punishment - the ideology of Israel
     
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    And yet they didn't get along with any in the plethora of Sunni Islamist rebels right next to them during the Syrian civil war.

    Force is to admit that the Palestinians may be a lot more secular than what's usually howled off the NA MSM. It would be in tune with their relatively high levels of education.
     
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    Iran is an invader in parts of Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq. Having more than a dozen of proxies in many countries is very much imperialistic.
     
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    Phooey. Iran has been the victim of American imperialism as shown in the 1953 invasion and the imposing of the fascist terrorist shah as its puppet leader.
     
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    US caused the creation of ISIS. US armed ISIS. Israel fights for ISIS. Iran caused the downfall of ISIS. Can you think of a country that has a military presence in over 70 countries, and that figure does not include proxies?
     
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    You're just dead and dead wrong here, buddy.
    Iran isn't in Yemen, as far as I know. They supply arms to rebels. The US does that to in Syria. Who gives?
    Iran is in Syria, but is not invading, but has been invited by the government to help out.
    Iran is in Lebanon and Iraq under similar circumstances. It's perfectly legit.

    And you can't say that about the US. The US invaded Iraq illegally, and that evidence to justify was just made up. The US is illegally in Syria as well. While it's funding ruthless dictatorships world wide. It's a terror state with a might makes right attitude. Well it aint right. And so it will go down in history. They don't have that might.

    And among countries who suffer the terror of the US, is Iran. The US paid for a coup against a fully completely democratic government to install a fascist dictator. They got rid of it, by removing the base of it's power,.. the US embassy. And as a reprisal for that, the US supported that mad man of a Saddam Hussein with it's WMD war against Iran. And where Assad may or may not throw a little barrel with chemicals on civilians,... it doesn't come anywhere close to what the US did by supporting Saddam Hussein. It's far worse compared to what the US did to Vietnam.... where they carpet bombed towns with napalm to burn civilians alive!

    Saddam got hanged for his roll. But US presidents should have been hung next to him.
     
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    Here we have another troll of Iranian descent... Only them and few North Koreans name American policy as imperialism.
     
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    Can you think of a country the system of which has been accepted by more than 200 countries worldwide (including China and Russia) so it has just become a "global order" also known as "rule of law" or "rule-based order"? Can ya now???
     
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    Your post is very much refutable.

    But I'll just ask a question instead:

    Do you mean to tell me that Assad officially invited "al-Muqawama al-Shabiya fi al-Mintaqa al-Sharqiya" and "Liwa al-Baqir"?

    Yes or no..?
     
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    And it never will.

    The writers of that article are not geographically inclined, and completely oblivious to the reality of logistics.

    Iran's army is almost purely defensive, and has only sufficient logistical support to sustain a conflict within 100 kilometers of its border, provided the border is contiguous.Likewise, Israel's army is not capable of conducting operations in Iran.

    Although Israel did recently acquire several tanker for aerial re-fueling, Israel still does not have enough tankers launch air strikes within Iran's borders. Iran, likewise, does not have sufficient tanker support to launch air strikes against Israel.

    The only confrontation that might occur is through the use of proxies, which does not qualify as a "head-to-head war."

    You might want to do yourself a favor and block that web-site, since it's produced nothing but garbage.
     
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    Feel free to spare your eyes from that you find offensive.....nobody is forcing you to view "garbage"!
     
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    He compares Iranian airforce to Israeli airforce. Iran "barely" has an airforce whereas Israel perhaps having the best pilots and fighter jets in the region. He's a total moron...
     
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    Well, smart as a whip certainly doesn't come to mind with that case....!
     
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    It's not.

    I wrote Iran is in Syria based on an invitation.
    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...ave-syria-but-russia-sets-the-rules-1.5466252

    You go post that question to somebody who wrote about "al-Muqawama al-Shabiya fi al-Mintaqa al-Sharqiya" and "Liwa al-Baqir"
     
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    It's Turkey who has the best fleet. Get real. They have been making F16's there since the 1980's. And they agreed to buy over a 100 F35 more than a decade ago. That is besides they started to develop their own 5th generation fighter jet. All their F16 will be replaced in 5 years from now.
     
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    I'm a patriotic American who posts the TRUTH. Only unpatriotic liars, apologists for imperialism, and hate filled warmongering traitors deny that the Republican led invasion of Iran in 1953 was a criminal act of Nazi style imperialism.
     
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    There are many layers to both the Palestinians and Israelis. I think Netanyahu is posturing and not serious about attacking Iran.
     
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    He seems to be serious. He has now twice attacked their bases in Lebanon killing Iranians. The first time he did it Russia said that attacking Iranian bases in Syria was no longer acceptable. Russia however would not interfere if Israel attacked Iran directly. Iran said it would respond to Israel's first attack. Israel cried and cried and then attacked an Iranian base in Syria again according to them resulting in an explosion which registered as an earthquake and again killing Iranians. Then they said that if Iraq responded to any of their attacks on Iranian bases in Syria they would attack Iran.

    I think they want to but they want the US in with them. If they believe they have that I think they will go for it.

    Oh and only this week Israel passed a law allowing Netanyahu to declare war on his own - after a chat with the defence minister.
     
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    You're far from being a patriot.
     
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    That's why Turkey and Israel are both regional powers with certain capabilities. Though Mossad has serious influence all over the ME, including "Turkey"...
     
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    That response is only revealing the fact that you are very ignorant of the ME...
    There are numerous official reports, 100s of pages each, putting straight forward the reality about Iran's use of zillions of jihadi shiite militias as proxies in Syria, and Iraq. They are NOT invited by Assad, inviting them would be totally ridiculous as they are terrorist groups, yet they DO operate as "commanding groups" within Assad's army troops. Most are LAFA factions. Turks have a saying; "go play in the sand"... Lol...
     
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    HA!... Everybody knows Erdogan rounds up who ever he wants. What a joke that is. And the only real regional power is Turkey. Israel leans on the US for it's support, and is by itself a tiny country.
     

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