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Can't prove a negative buddy. We've gone over that enuff times.


Still waiting for your "proof".

Get that a lot on this forum ....

 

the ADL and the Simon Weisenthal Center, two orgs that you frequently reference, say BDS is bigoted against Jews

 

try getting a visa to visit Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Qatar, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Syria....criticize the govt. during your interview, and see if they let you in.

 

Let us apply conservative principle - As Reagan said, government is the problem, not the solution. OK, since righties do not believe in government and that people should solve their own problems, it is time to apply that to Israel as well.

As principled conservatives all of you from the far right happily cheer my words, right?

 

Well, since your words completely misconstrue anything that conservatives believe or say, then I doubt if you will hear much cheering.

 

Phooey. I won't get much cheering because righties don't like to get called out on their principles.

 

Principles that you pull out of your ass? Then I guess the people on the right that claim those on the left want to take away ALL guns, or that the left is in favor of open borders, or that the left is nothing but a bunch of communists and socialist are just as valid as well. At least based on YOUR logic.

 

No - principles that you people pull out of your asses when convenient. Then, when called out on them you run away. Your reply illustrates me point since you criticize but fail to apply your so called principles.

Thanks for your concession.

 

That has far more to do with their idea that there can only be one Israel, and it's an over the top specifically ethnic Jewish Israel. If you want something else, than it means the destruction of Israel. So they refuse to accept the right of Arabs to return home on such grounds. It of course will not destroy Israel, it will only alter it's ethnic make up.
https://twitter.com/adl/status/1062880386139783169

The ADL blatantly is in open support of the war criminal behavior of having settlements in the WB. That is well known. And you're in no position to lecture me about a thing, with your citizens can not be war criminal rant.

The SWC is on that same road:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center#Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions_(BDS)

 

Ahhh....more pigeon chess.

 

i never said "citizens cannot be war criminals".

if you are going to quote me, please get it correct

@notme

 

I don't see you proving me wrong.

 

i said "civilians", not "citizens".

thank you

 

Oh... how petty to nitpick on that.
I still proved you were being dead wrong after a week of your charades,
and your constant refusal to back up your claim.

 

this has nothing to do with this thread.

thank you

 

It has everything to do with your post today,... claiming something, not backing it up. At best a half truth. Them 2 organisation support Israel's war criminal behavior in the WB. They are part of the poisonous lobby groups in the US and the reason why the Jews can just keep on making their war crimes bigger every year. So of course they got a massive problem with even a peaceful act of resistance. Thanks for your contribution.

 

Oh the joke is totally on you.
How about you go source any of these countries blocked the entry of a US member of congress.

 

if a member of Congress was severely critical of those nations and called for their total economic and diplomatic boycott, they would not be allowed in.

 

You commented before that a war criminal may defend what was ethnically cleansed for him, with deadly force... as an act of self defense against it's victim. And I suggest you lay of the famebait with you accusing me of targeting Jews.

go source it

 

yes, if you try to kill a settler he has the right to defend himself with deadly force.

that is a fact that no international organization or court will EVER contradict.

anyone who tries to kill a settler is a terrorist, and is asking for a bullet


now, do settlers have the right to defend their homes and property with deadly force? I'd say no.

 

The UNSC have said the settler is in total violation of international law. It is a war crime, and that makes that civilian a war criminal. A war criminal has no rights to defend his war crime. The victim of the crime may defend itself, with deadly force. The settler can just go home to it's own country, as is recognized by the international community and file a complaint at the ICJ over it's position. Until than, a war criminal caught in the act is just asking for a bullet or a knife when it resists.

And you since you support war criminals to go forth unopposed and kill who object, it does mean you support war criminals.

 

Of course BDS is not "anti Semitic" in that it doesn't target any & all Jewish businesses around the world simply because they're Jewish.

BDS is specifically directed at only Israeli businesses located in Israel because of the blatantly racist policies of that country's government.

It is however, ironic that supporters of a racist regime have only howling "anti Semite" as their sole defense in supporting these same inexcusably racist Israeli policies.

"An antisemite used to be someone who hates Jews;

nowadays an antisemite is someone Jews hate.”


- Gilad Atzmon, Jewish musician and author, 2011

 

bullshit.

even folks accused of crimes have the right to defend themselves if illegally attacked.

if a murder suspect is being walked to prison, and someone attacks him, the murder suspect has the right to self-defense.

if some thug terrorist goes to a settlment and tries to kill a settler, that settler has the legal right to defend himself with deadly force, even though his residency may be illegal.

 

Go source that the attack is illegal. As far as I know... it's only has been condemned. That is not saying it's illegal.

In the US, where there are the best norms of the world, you can just pick up any weapon and kill the intruder of your property if it violently resists. And your idea is the world up side down, and demand the intruder gets to murder the victim.

 

attacks upon Israeli civilians in the settlements is a war crime

https://www.btselem.org/israeli_civilians

the only targets that may be legal, are soldiers protecting settlements.