Israel has Killed over 3,500 children in the last 3 weeks

No they weren't.

 

You are clinging to propaganda from a terrorist organization. No point in trying to justify that to me.

 

A two state solution has been offered several times. The palestinians have rejected it every time. They don't want a two state solution. They want Israel.

 

Any way you slice it, this wouldn't be happening but for Hamas.

 

Mmm, no

Terrorist propaganda is when one disregards the impact on innocent civilians in order to pursue their political goals.

 

Who told you there are 300 miles of tunnels? And if you believe it what is the point of murdering Gazan civilians given that Hamas would be hiding in those tunnels?

 

What figure would you believe?

Apparently this was a safe zone in South Gaza:



Did no one die there?

Another safe zone in South Gaza:


Did no one die there.

That is from just two bombs. 7000 more have been dropped on Gaza and many on the "safe" zone where Israel told civilians to travel to. Yes, cram them in to increase deaths per bomb

 

Mmmm no. Terrorist propaganda in this case is lies or exaggerations intended to feed anti-semitism.

 

Yes, let’s pick up all propaganda that Hamas can invent and report it as the truth. Perhaps when Hamas gets the number up to a million children, it will make up for the children they actually beheaded and the baby they baked in an oven in front of the child’s mother.

 

Oh I didn't realize the definition of terrorism changes in this specific instance to mean something entirely different. Normally it's defined by violent actions against civilians in pursuit of political aims.. but in this specific instance, terrorism is defined by holding views that are in opposition to violent actions against civilians

 

Hamas has eliminated all of their own safe zones when they fire rockets toward civilians from hospitals, schools, and churches..

 

No propaganda is not violence. It is words.

 

Apparently. But to answer your question I wouldn't believe a singe word from Hamas. It is hard to believe you do or anyone else does.

 

I will refrain from posting images of dead children from the bombings of Gaza in this thread, but if you would like I could DM you a video where somewhere around 15 or so children who appear to be between the ages of 2 and 10 years old are being placed in body bags, one of which is missing the back half of their head. In case you did not know, Gaza is more densely populated than the city of Los Angeles, which means it is quite possibly the most densely populated area in human history to be hit with military air strikes. Also note that 45% of their population are 15 years old or younger. This is happening.. you might not want to believe it, but it is undeniable. It is not reasonable to claim it is not happening, nor is it reasonable to claim that they are not civilians, or that they deserve what has happened to them, or that it is justified due to the prior actions of a government or organization. Justifying the slaughtering of innocent civilians in such a manner is the literal mindset of terrorist propaganda. Whether they are Palestinian, or Israeli, the life of innocent civilians ought to be protected. If this means using more special operations on the ground, then so be it.

 

And you know it happened in Gaza and it happened at the hands of Israel and it even occurred this year. Give me a break. Don't try to justify anything with Hamas propaganda. You should know better. Yes civilian lives should be protected. Israel went to the trouble to warning the civilians to move south before the attack. How do you feel about Russia who did nothing like that in Ukraine? I haven't read any comments to that effect.

 

They warned them to move south and then bombed them there

 

Nonsense.

 

Yes, we literally have recordings of entire city blocks being flattered by air strikes, as well as recordings of living people and dead bodies (many of whom children) being pulled from the ruble. 37 journalists on the ground have been killed from the conflict over the past month, including 4 Israeli journalists. Israel has given civilians warnings to evacuate, but as noted by various international human rights groups, these warnings have not been adequate enough for civilians to sufficiently take shelter. Most notably, when they gave approximately 500,000 civilians 24 hours to evacuate a city district, or when they have sent out warnings to areas where they have already cut off the electricity, or when they have literally conducted air strikes on the evacuation routes, as well as designated safe zones where civilians have gone to seek shelter. Not to mention the civilians who have successfully evacuated, but now have no homes to return back to. Again, I cannot stress enough how densely populated this region is, and what these air strikes mean for the people on the ground. This is expected to be the greatest refugee crisis since WWII, and it is unlikely that a marshal plan like effort from the Israeli government will be made to rebuild the area for the Palestinian civilians who have lost their homes

 

War is hell. Have you ever been in one? Hamas should have known better than to butcher Jews a month ago. The price for that is terrible, even for those who were not involved in it. Pure hell. Every war. Every time. Israel is doing what it must do. It isn't pretty. It is necessary. Get a grip and hope it doesn't happen to you.

 

No region this densely populated has ever been hit like this before.. it would be worse than leveling the city of Los Angeles…the follow up consequences of this war will be catastrophic. The US for example used mostly special forces operations on the ground in the populated regions of Afghanistan to avoid such a crisis, and funny enough, we were actually more successful at controlling those populated regions than we were at controlling the less populated regions during the war

Not to mention we have a long history of taking in refugees from the impacted areas, and rebuilding the destroyed territories for the people who have lost their homes

Once again… I really cannot stress enough how densely populated Gaza is, and what this means in the long run for the civilians of Palestine and the rest of the world. When the fighting is done, the people of Gaza won’t have an economy to survive on, those who will remain will have to live their lives on foreign aid until their homes are rebuilt and their economy is re-established. Everyone else will have to live as refugees.. this is going to be the greatest refugee crisis since WWII, and it’s unlikely that Israel will invest in rebuilding the destroyed area for the people of Palestine like the allied forces did for the civilians of the axis territories.

This is far from being one of the biggest wars in human history, yet Israel is taking the course of actions to create one of the biggest refugee crises in human history. Hamas is a relatively weak military forces with virtually no Navy or Air Force, and very limited military technology... the fact that they are leveling such a populated area instead of using special forces operations on the ground is appalling.

 

You picked your side. I picked mine.

 

But would Hamas exist if there was no Israeli prevention of a Palestinian nation?

 

Hamas exits because Israel exists.

 

Israel is fine with a Palestinian nation if they are willing to live in peace and not attack Israel. The Palestinians refuse to acknowledge Israel has a right to exist and allow terrorist organizations free reign on their land.

 

What side am I picking exactly? I'm saying that Israel should do special forces operation on the ground instead of creating one of the greatest refugee crises in human history, because I do not see an innocent Israeli civilian's life as being more valuable than an innocent Palestinian civilian's life, and vice versa. This isn't about picking a side, it's about protecting the innocent.. it's the most basic principle justice and decency