Israel Shooting Those Waiting for Food Aid

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  1. WillReadmore

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    Israel is the only democratic government in the ME. The USA supports the parliamentary democratic government of Israel in their fight against radical Islamic terrorism. Useful idiots claim the USA and Israel are guilty of genocide for doing so.
     
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    Yes, that sounds good. But, it doesn't measure up in reality outside of Israel.

    An act of terrorism does not justify genocide. The world knows that.
     
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    What does it justify?
     
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    The Hamas acts of terrorism are genocide. Israel is acting to stop that genocide. How can acting to stop genocide be genocide??
     
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    After 911, which caused far more deaths, we worked to identify who was behind it and then sent Seal Team 6.
     
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    No, the Hamas terrorist attack certainly did not qualify as genocide. It DID qualify as terrorism.

    These words do have meanings.
     
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    The Hamas charter specifies genocide against the Jews. October 7 was aligned with the genocidal objective of the charter.
     
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    Cite the Hamas charter you are referring to.

    You can look at Wiki for a summary of the important elements of the platform of Netanyahu's party, the Likud party platform, as they, too, have changed their platform from when it stated flat out that Israel includes all lands from the river to the sea, and their dedication to ensuring no government but Israel's exists in that region.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud#Ideological_positions

    As we see in West Bank, the idea of a two state solution remains absolutely denied by Likud party members who still see the land from the Jordan River to the sea belonging to Israel.


    Here you can read the 1977 Likud Party Platform:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party

    If you want to dispute any of this, then cite your claims.
     
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    Who cares .. the Likhud charter the same against Arabs .. both sides in the blood feud hate each other .. surprise surprise. That Hamas hates the Israeli's does not justify collective punishment of the Palestinians .. the murder and slaughter of thousands of innocent children .. Ethnic Cleansing .. Crimes against humanity.

    the fact that the Jews didn't like the Germans much did not justify the Holocaust. If you were living in the outdoor concentration camp known as Gaza - you would hate the Colonial Oppressors as well.
     
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    Hamas is responsible for the current conditions in Gaza which have steadily deteriorated since 2007.
     
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    I and many others have done so in many other threads on this forum as you well know. Hamas has acted on their charter since it’s inception.

    The platform of a political party is irrelevant.
     
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    What Hamas platform are you referring to? Please cite it.
     
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    Please read your post.
     
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    I know that ethical Jews (1) and non Jews around the world are condemning Netanyahu's Gaza Genocide but I'm afraid that even before 7 October 2023 almost half of Israel's Jews supported ethnic cleansing. (2)
    I feel certain that the number of Israeli Jews who support outright genocide has increased since that date so it looks like that in spite of Israel's glut of Holocaust theme parks, most Israelis have forgotten to "Never forget..."

    Thanks,

    (1). “Jews Against Genocide statement and action”
    http://www.ijan.org/uncategorized/jews-against-genocide-statement-and-action/

    EXCERPT “We, Jews Against Genocide, came to Yad Vashem, Israel’s memorial of the genocide committed against Jews, to honor the Palestinian children who are dying in a genocide committed by Jews.

    We brought dolls to symbolise the children of Gaza, and tried to bring a glimpse of the horror that Gazan’s face, to Israel’s doorstep. We hope to show Israel, and the world, the absurd reality of using the memory of one genocide to justify another.” CONTINUED


    (2). “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found." CONTINUED
     
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    The only genocidal entity in Gaza is Hamas.
     
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    A country that want to be a pure religious state and practice Apartheid isn't a democracy.
     
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    Their problem is that the Israelis are better at genocide. Seen the body count and deportations since 1948
     
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    You live in a fantasy world.
     
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    What does that have to do with the Israel's Ethnic Cleansing operation .. war crimes and crimes against humanity ? This is the same bad arguments as previous post .. justifying the Holocaust because the Jews were responsible for deteriorating conditions in the Warsaw Ghetto.

    This argument - That mass slaughter of tens of thousands of children and innocent civilians is justified on the basis of the actions of some extremist group that Israel/US put in power -- has been refuted so many times in so many ways ... yet you keep returning and banging heads against same brick wall .. expecting that this time it is not going to hurt.

    This justification of yours is pure hypocrisy --- as you don't really believe that the Germans were Justified in the Warsaw Ghetto Holocaust .. "because the Jews didn't like the Germans .. some wanting to kill Germans .. doing terrorist actions" DO YOU ? '

    That's a question friend .. rhetorical as it may be !? :)
     
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    I live in reality.
     
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    Israel does not have an ethnic cleansing operation.
     
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    That would be Iran who sponsors Hamas.
     
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    Israel is good at defending itself. They have been continuously attacked by Arab nations whose mission is to eradicate Jews from the Middle East since 1948.
     
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    It's a common Hasbara ploy to fixate on an entirely irrelevant and out dated "Hamas Charter" to obfuscate Netanyahu's de facto genocidal "Solution" for Gaza.

    In addition to bombs and bullets, starvation has long been a preferred weapon of genocidal Jews like Ginrikh Yagota, (1) and, more recently, Yoav Gallant(2), Netanyahu etc.

    We've seen over and over again that cowardly IDFers are disciples of the "Shoot first and then identify" school of urban warfare.

    For example, how do you explain gunning down half naked hostages waving white flags?
    What sort of "soldier" fires on a crowd of starving and homeless women and children?

    Attempting to excuse blatant Zionist genocide is almost as bad as committing it.



    (1). "Stalin's Jews"

    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED


    (2). “A Textbook Case of Genocide”

    “Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?”

    https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

    EXCERPTS “Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant declared it in no uncertain terms on October 9th: “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.”

    Indeed, Israel’s genocidal assault on Gaza is quite explicit, open, and unashamed. Perpetrators of genocide usually do not express their intentions so clearly" CONTINUED
     
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