Wrong there are PLENTY of poor areas in this country and the world that are not crime stricken. Crime causes poverty by running out the business and factories to employ people and create a tax base.
No generally how it works. I worked at a manufacturing plant on the south side if Chicago back in the early 1970's. Good paying jobs about 75 plant floor workers. It wasn't the poverty that drove away that plant a few years after I left it was the crime. They couldn't afford the loses anymore and one of the persons they caught in one spree was an employee who would hide in the building and load stuff out to his buddies at night. My car was broken into several times even had tired slashed I guess cause I was a white guy. What are you denying here Wrong there are PLENTY of poor areas in this country and the world that are not crime stricken. Crime causes poverty by running out the business and factories to employ people and create a tax base.
Wow. This post DIDN'T Age Well. Biden ALWAYS had the Dem. Nomination in the Bag. When people look back on the history of this nomination fight: 1) Everybody KNEW (Last Year) that SC was Biden's Firewall (regardless of what happened in the first 3 states). 2) Everybody also KNEW that Biden would use a Big Victory in SC to slingshot into a Blowout on Super Tuesday. 3) It is baffling (and mind-boggling) that certain pundits put so much stock in 2 states that were over 90% White. Conclusion--The EXPECTED Happened. Everybody saw that coming last year.
I didn't see it coming, Andy. I did not dream that Democrats would actually support a corrupt, senile, machine-politician like Joe Biden -- especially after it became thoroughly revealed to the world the kind of slimy, abusive, self-aggrandizing crap he pulled for his cocaine-huffing son, Hunter.... I WAS WRONG! And you were right! Now, consider the really horrible, awful choice we Conservatives (the REAL ones) have to make.... We can either go on supporting Trump and his non-stop, maniacal thrashing to blow big numbers back into what was an already horribly overvalued stock market, or, we can support a semi-demented, corrupt creature like Joe Biden who will have to be led around on a short leash by 'insider' handlers to keep him from drooling in public.... Maybe for the first time in my long life, this would be a good time not to vote at all. Trump or Biden? No wonder Americans are buying up every last roll of toilet paper off the store shelves. A choice like THAT is, indeed, enough to make a person need to sh!t....
You think the south side of Chicago is still the manufacturing center it once was before the crime ran it all out? It wasn't just the company I worked for. What are you denying and where is the proof of your claim? Wrong there are PLENTY of poor areas in this country and the world that are not crime stricken. Crime causes poverty by running out the business and factories to employ people and create a tax base. You can't eliminate poverty until you have jobs, you can't have the jobs as long as crime drives businesses out.
Sticking with your meaningless anecdote exposes that you have ZERO FACTS to support your BOGUS allegation.
You made the initial claim prove that businesses and factories and the tax base thrives in high crime areas. You Prove it. The gangs in Chicago are NOT POOR, they have LOTS Of money but they drive the crime and that makes everyone else poor because there are no jobs. You want to bring these poor crime infested neighborhoods out of that poverty the crack down on the crime in order to get businesses to invest and create jobs again.
WRONG for the umpteenth time! YOU are the one making the utterly BOGUS claim that crime causing poverty. Too bad you can't produce a single credible study to support your bovine excrement. Sad!
Wrong for the impteeth time Your msg #68 Prove it. Are you denying that as crime rises in a community business and jobs and law abiding taxpaying citizens move out?
https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/IJSE-04-2017-0167/full/html?fullSc=1 Facts matter!
Are you denying that as crime rises in a community business and jobs and law abiding taxpaying citizens move out? Why are those neighborhoods poor to begin with? No jobs, they have been run out by crime. Tell me how poor are those gangs in Chicago? "Social scientists and public officials have long identified poverty as a “root cause” of crime or, at least, as a significant “risk factor.” Such a causal linkage was made by Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius (121-180 A.D.), who declared, “Poverty is the mother of crime.” During the 1960s, Attorney General Ramsey Clark emphasized that the United States government needed to combat crime by improving the deplorable conditions under which impoverished people were living. What followed was a plethora of social programs aimed at doing just that. Although many citizens benefited and improved their lot in life, crime remained an intractable problem. What may not be apparent is that crime causes poverty.... ..It is not peaceful protestors who threaten the livelihoods of small business owners. It is criminals who seize upon an opportunity when there is social disorder. In the name of a cause, they strike -- destroying property belonging to fledgling entrepreneurs. Having begun to emerge from poverty, these merchants are plunged back into it when criminals demolish overnight what they have worked so hard to build." https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/inside-the-criminal-mind/201412/crime-causes-poverty You're putting the cart before the horse. What causes one to fall into poverty? Drug abuse, a crime. Engaging in crime getting caught and having a record, crime. No jobs available because business refuse to open in high crime areas. We have poured BILLIONS into to poor neighborhoods on the premise that would get them out of poverty while ignoring the crime. And even now the left wants to release the criminals back into these struggling areas further guarantying there will not be jobs for the law abiding.
By some unknown Malaysian researchers who merely determine "it can be argued", they proved nothing. It can be argued that if poverty causes crime then our prisons would be full of single mothers who make up the majority of poverty in this country. Is that true? How about people who actual deal with it on the frontline? "There is another theory, one that requires thinking outside the box and makes all of us pause to get our arms around it. This theory is one that was actively articulated by our former mayor, John Norquist. Norquist, and others, argue that it is crime that causes poverty. They argue that a high crime rate destabilizes neighborhoods. It drives businesses out. It drives homeowners away looking for a safer place to live. Crime creates a climate that frightens everyone and dissuades any meaningful attempts at turning around a neighborhood." https://onmilwaukee.com/living/articles/crimeissue.html Actual studies....OK "The FBI just issued its Uniform Crime Report for 2016 and no one will be surprised to learn that violent crime shot up since the 2015 report. Nor will any eyebrows rise when we note that the biggest increase occurred in our most populous cities. Take murder and manslaughter, for instance, which provide the most accurate crime data. For all U.S. cities, killings rose 8.8% since 2015, but for cities with a million people or more the homicide spike was over 20%. Another significant statistic is the increased involvement of African Americans both as homicide victims and perpetrators. In Chicago blacks (32% of the city) were over 78% of the murder victims in 2016, and nationwide (13% of the population) they were more than 52% of the victims. At the same time that these disturbing crime figures were released the Census Bureau was producing some paradoxical poverty figures. In every one of the 25 most populous metro areas in the United States poverty declined from 2015 to ’16. For the African American population in deep poverty (less than 50% of the poverty level) – a population at high risk for violent crime – there has been a modest but steady decline since 2012. In 2012, 13.5% of the black population was in deep poverty; in 2016 that figure fell by 807,000 to 11%." https://www.thedailybeast.com/poverty-is-down-so-why-is-crime-up
Now you are just FLAILING because NONE of the above supports your bovine excrement allegation and neither does it debunk the SCIENTIFIC STUDY!
Your study proved nothing it only said it could be argued. I gave you frontline and yes a study which you can't refute. This Criminologist Debunks the Dogma that Poverty Causes Crime "We are persistently told by the progressive political class that economic hardship and inequality are the principle causes of America’s social problems, including crime. Not so, says Barry Latzer, Professor of Criminal Justice at CUNY. Latzer, author of a new history of violent crime, aptly titled The Rise and Fall of Violent Crime in America, contends that there is no ironclad relationship between economics and crime. On the contrary, at both the macro and micro levels, crime is influenced by a variety of factors often independent of economic circumstance." https://www.encounterbooks.com/feat...matically-debunks-dogma-poverty-causes-crime/ Poverty Isn't the Chief Cause of Crime "Poverty had nothing to do with this gratuitous violence. The millionaire Jimenez was a master of conspicuous consumption, like so many gangbangers. Nor does any hypothesized “poverty” in his childhood explain such predatory behavior. There was real poverty in the Great Depression — no welfare recipients with smartphones and cable TV then — and crime rates were negligible. Many Asian immigrant families today have lower incomes than average inner-city residents, yet their children’s crime rates are also negligible. Poverty also does not explain flash mobs of “urban youth,” such as the ones in Center City Philadelphia that have been beating, macing, and possibly tasing white pedestrians over the last month. The Chicago video shows the consequence not of poverty but of familial and cultural breakdown. Gang-infested neighborhoods need a reconstruction of norms, above all, bourgeois values of self-control, personal responsibility (especially for one’s children), and marriage. If $25 million couldn’t stop Thaddeus Jimenez from shooting an innocent man, big government anti-poverty programs, such as the $1.4 billion in New York State tax dollars that Governor Andrew Cuomo is diverting into Central Brooklyn, are unlikely to dissuade other budding felons from a life of crime either." https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/poverty-isnt-chief-cause-crime-10099.html Poverty doesn’t cause crime, Mr Mayor. Criminals do "New Zealand was far less well off in the 1950s than it is now, yet its crime rates then were significantly lower than they are today. Likewise research by Stephen Levitt found that data from the Great Depression, which produced unemployment rates near to 28 per cent in America, failed to confirm the expected connection between poverty and crime. (2) As far back as 1994, Home Office research found no relationship between unemployment and crime in Britain. (3) A more recent analysis carried out in 2011, based on 27 EU countries (including Britain) found, contrary to what many believed, that the countries with greater degrees of inequality and poverty had less crime than those which were wealthier, with better medical and welfare provision, and more equality. (4)" https://conservativewoman.co.uk/poverty-doesnt-cause-crime-mr-mayor-criminals-do/
Waiting If it can be argued that poverty causes crime then why aren't our prisons full of single mothers who make up the majority of poverty in this country. Why don't we constantly read about single mothers committing burglaries and armed robbery?
I blew that one lol... I thought for sure Bye BYE BIDEN was gone. He could not give complete a sentence
Regurgitating extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION does not alter REALITY one iota! Name all of the well to do areas that fell into poverty because of crime?
Thank you for establishing that you lack the relevant Subject Matter Knowledge to engage in a debate regarding poverty and crime. If you did have that relevant Subject Matter Knowledge you would know the answer to the question you just asked. Sad!
Your bromides and platitudes for lack of rebuttal refute nothing. Try again, if poverty drives crime then why aren't our jails filled with single mothers?
