It is 2015 , should governments outlaw religion?

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, religion isn't taught in government funded schools in the U.S. We cannot stop the voluntary transfer of wealth. It's against the concept of basic liberty, which you seem to dislike.
     
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    ''to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance''.

    ''adjective
    1.
    clear or obvious to the eye or mind.''

    ''verb
    1.
    show (a quality or feeling) by one's acts or appearance; demonstrate.''

    ''and observance''

    ''noun
    1.
    the practice of observing the requirements of law, morality, or ritual.''

    ''the action of watching or noticing something.''


    I am sure there is a loop hole in there somewhere I will think hard, something to do with con man, what does the constitution state about conmen?
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Do you believe the U.N. to be extremist? After all, the universal declaration of human rights acknowledges that all humans have a right to freedom of religion. I showed this to you days ago, why do you persist in trying to outlaw a basic human right, as acknowledged by the international community?
    http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html
     
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    Personally I am an atheist, but what? I would just prefer them to keep it to themselves, do we really need to put people in jail for believing in a god? It's not like they blow things up because of it, I mean there are extremists but, they should be in jail for different reasons.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You again show your ignorance. Cowboys are from the post-Civil War era (the 1870s and later). The U.S. Constitution was written in 1789, by a bunch of revolutionaries that were against the status quo of Europe that required adherence to a state religion at the time.

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    Do you truly feel that you could teach about the history of the Middle Ages without discussing the religious beliefs at the time? If so, you are an uneducated person.

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    No, they teach truth.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing unique or innovative in your anti-deist childish rant. To date, I'm willing to bet you haven't changed a single mind. When people see you coming they probably think "Oh crap here he comes". You bore people.
     
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    Because religion is stupidity and I hate stupidity. Very simple , stupidity get you know where.
     
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    do you also hate intellectual dishonesty, too? lol
     
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    And what ? this is a discussion forum welcome to reality.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    My point was that you believe in the idea of atheism and "science" so fervently as to be a religion.
     
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    The cop out clause.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You missed my point. All prisoners are treated equally by a totalitarian government. Nothing about equality demands holidays, and in fact, I think rewards are anti-equality. Equality just means that nobody gets holidays (if anybody does). Not sure what your obsession is with holidays, you should be regretting that life is so unequal that not all people in the world get the same holidays, and for that reason, you should be like a typical developing world person, and never have a holiday, even weekends. Don't you just regret how unequal you are to somebody in Africa?
     
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    ''the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.''

    I worship nothing
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Huh? What in the world?
     
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    meaning.... that's all you have, huh? lol


    Enjoy knowing that I'm going to be allowed to go to Church on Sunday and continue to teach my kids that Christianity is the correct way and there isn't a thing you can do about it to prevent me from doing so.


    Thank you 1st amendment
     
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    True. I agree. I support the right to Muslims to worship. I support the right of neo-Pagans to worship. I even support the right of Scientologists (which, IMHO, is an outright fraud as admitted by it's founder) to worship. I believe in freedom.
     
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    And you're lying about being English.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You are quite ignorant about how to study history. To understand the Crusades, you need to know the basics of Christianity (both Roman and Byzantine), Islam, and Judaism. You can't truly believe the garbage you are posting, can you?

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    I'm guessing German or Russian.

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    Small minds only read the first definition.

    The Oxford dictionary also posts the following definitions:
    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/religion

    1.2 fits your views, based on what I've read of your swill.
     
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    Yes it is far from fare that the poor Africans, were unlucky enough to born in that specific location, they didn't choose where they were born. Of cause America would love to occupy Africa in reality, the big gaping ozone layer hole above your heads that will soon wipe you all out and make your lands dry and desolate of food growth, Africa might be a bit on the dry side, but the prospects are better than yours. Inequality of life in general is what is the worlds problem, it is better to be fed than to have no food at all. When you realise an apple is worth more than gold, your mighty wealth over there is worth nothing, could you sustain your population on you own food growth?
     
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    Only liars look for loop holes. The statement stands firm. It's an internationally recognized principal that we have a freedom to worship as we see fit.

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    That is your right. I'm fine with you hating religion, and your expression of it. The only thing I object to is your advocacy of deadly force to eliminate religion.

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    Again, using the first definition in a set shows a simple mind.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You don't even know basic science. First, the ozone hole is not above the U.S. It's primarily above the Antarctic. Second, the ozone hole has been getting smaller over the past ten or fifteen years. Do you ever research any of the lies you spew?
    http://www.weather.com/science/environment/news/ozone-hole-closing-nasa

    The U.S. is the biggest exporter of food in the world. We produce enough not only for our own use, but for a lot of other countries as well. We do import food, but that's primarily luxury food (like grapes in the winter and spring). (and, no, we don't want to occupy Africa, we have never occupied Africa, unlike European countries)

    Anyway, I don't have the delusion that equality of results can or should happen. But since you do, you should live your life accordingly. Live as if you were in the poorest part of the world, so YOU can be equal with others.
     
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    Yes you have the right to remain ignorant and stupid in your false belief with no evidential merit.
     
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    Yup that is why you fire the Tesla design into the sky isn't it, so you fixed it then ?
     
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    So to confirm then what you have all said, you are a religious set originally based in Europe, and you stole the land of America's from the indian's for its great potential wealth of food supply etc, then some of you decided you wanted it all for your selves by the narcissist in you, so took over then implied there religious cult constitution, I really think your God would be proper annoyed.
     
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    If that is what you claimed in the OP, I'd have no problem with your views. I only object to your attempt to use deadly force (i.e. the government) to eliminate religion. I'm fine if you want to preach atheism and the absurdity of religion. I'm fine with you calling religious people stupid. I'm totally against you trying to immorally cause the governments of the world to eliminate religion.

    So which is it? Do you think I have a right to free expression of religion, or do you think governments of the world should eliminate religion?

    Also,you cowardly refused to address this earlier: do you realize the anti-Vatican book you quoted in the OP was published by an American anti-Catholic Protestant fundamentalist publishing company? The same publishing company also publishes the following tracts:
    http://www.chick.com/search/searchr...=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=atheism&sa=Search
     

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